How many Supermen would it take to conquer the MU?

Originally posted by -Pr-
DC established that if you're going to make Kryptonite, it has to be the native Kryptonite of that universe. When they fought Superboy Prime, it wouldn't work on him because he was from an alternate universe.

Of course, if a Marvel guy could replicate that exact kind of kryptonite that would hurt Superman, then it would help, yes.

Further, pocket universe Superboy's Kryptonite had no effect on post crisis Superman.

Doesent matter. Kryptonite wont be needed here. Yall are givi g Superman ssme unbeatable fallacy bullshit here. One Superman isnt winning this. Its just not happening.

Originally posted by cdtm
Further, pocket universe Superboy's Kryptonite had no effect on post crisis Superman.

Which one was that?

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Doesent matter. Kryptonite wont be needed here. Yall are givi g Superman ssme unbeatable fallacy bullshit here. One Superman isnt winning this. Its just not happening.

I didn't say one could do it.

For what it's worth, Norrin Radd should stomp most characters he doesn't, too.

There's a reason Quicksilver beating Mr. X down with a pipe was a big deal in comic circles. Because it's a very, very rare example where speed isn't nerfed to hell, as happens with Flash and his entire rogues gallery..

Originally posted by -Pr-
Which one was that?

PUS was Byrne's quick and dirty answer to Superboy inspiring the Legion in an era when Superman was never Superboy.

Abhi posted scans awhile back (And I own the issues, but can't access them at the moment), but basically Time Trapper took a snapshot of the prime universe, then pruned it (Wiped out all other life) and reshaped Earth until we got Pre Crisis Superboys world as it was before the Crisis. Complete with pre crisis power levels letting him travel through time under his own power, juggle planets, ect (And PC Superboys feats because "his" feats retroactively..)

Insert some time redirecting by so they visit "his" Earth, and Legion history was preserved. Until Five Years Later and Zero Hour, anyways.

Anyways, post crisis Superman meets him shortly before his final Legion story (where he dies), and they fight a bunch. Krypto the Superdog runs to get a container of all the pc Kryptonites ever, exposing himself to gold k in the process and becoming a normal dog. Superman manages to get the container, and Superman figures out he's being played by Superboy, grabs a rock and proves he was never in any danger. (As for why Superboy was willing to sacrifice himself, it was something about Trapper protecting his universe from the Crisis in exchange for some evil acts, and I guess he couldn't deal with it..)

Originally posted by cdtm
PUS was Byrne's quick and dirty answer to Superboy inspiring the Legion in an era when Superman was never Superboy.

Abhi posted scans awhile back (And I own the issues, but can't access them at the moment), but basically Time Trapper took a snapshot of the prime universe, then pruned it (Wiped out all other life) and reshaped Earth until we got Pre Crisis Superboys world as it was before the Crisis. Complete with pre crisis power levels letting him travel through time under his own power, juggle planets, ect (And PC Superboys feats because "his" feats retroactively..)

Insert some time redirecting by so they visit "his" Earth, and Legion history was preserved. Until Five Years Later and Zero Hour, anyways.

Gotta be honest, most of that is a blur to me, but ill take your word for it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Gotta be honest, most of that is a blur to me, but ill take your word for it.

Honestly, it was a sad story. Very dark.

That universe is where Matrix Supergirl came from, and where Byrne had Superman kill for the first time. To execute the Phantom Zone criminals after they killed over 2 billion people and left Earth an airless wasteland.

Originally posted by cdtm
Honestly, it was a sad story. Very dark.

That universe is where Matrix Supergirl came from, and where Byrne had Superman kill for the first time. To execute the Phantom Zone criminals after they killed over 2 billion people and left Earth an airless wasteland.

I do remember the killing of the other Kryptonians. I just don't remember a lot of the stuff surrounding it.

Everyone seems to be arguing PC Supes, or it looks like that to me.

I say it will take 80 supes per planet, then the various MU devils will **** him up

Originally posted by cdtm
If you're as passive-aggressive with them as you are here, I can believe it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Interesting that you said Pluto.

DCnU Superman was as fast as cloaked teleportation (plus, he managed to search the entire Earth) from Pluto:

http://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11115/111153356/3772649-superman.jpg
http://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11115/111153356/3772657-superman+2.jpg
http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11115/111153356/3772662-superman+3.jpg

Don't bash, guys, it isn't very nice.

Wont happen again. 👆

i still think top magic users can create a magical field around earth and effect any amount of supermans who will step foot on the planet. therefor even an army of supermans will be defeated. or someone can travel to DC universe, get a kryptonite, return to marvel and let hank pym or someone replicate it.

There is no more magic in the MU. Strange has been going around with the absolute bare bones, bottom of the barrel scrapings.

For the sake of argument lets say no one is at at a detriment in the MU, this hard enough to call as it is.

Well, in the interests of fAirness, DCnU Superman is dead😛

I doubt MU would be able to mount a defence in time, tbh. The way he raced from Pluto, found his targets and stood there..

If he was serious and out to conquer (and tbh, why wouldn't he be, for the purposes of a battle thread), then just one could take out a fair few, especially the fodder street guys and glass cannons (Scarlet Witch). MU without any prep, shorn of their big brains (Dooms, Reeds, Tchallas) against a mass of Supes?

Double figures could do it. Before we start going into the big guns of Marvel.

Well, in the interests of fAirness, DCnU Superman is dead

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There is no more magic in the MU. Strange has been going around with the absolute bare bones, bottom of the barrel scrapings.

what about odin and rune king thor? brother voodoo? umar? loki? baron mordo? scarlet witch?dormammu? combined those magic weilders can destroy armies of superman

Mordo, Witch et al have no more power. The Empirikuul came and destroyed all magic. Voodoo, Magik etc. No power.

By the by, because obv it tips things unfairly.

But how do all these guys know? They don't just sit around, ready and waiting. They're all pretty much humans, with human level reactions and durability (until their spells are cast).

It's like playing online, except one side has massive lag, ans the other os a pro Korean.