SunRazer
Back From The Dead
Originally posted by MythLord
And we know she succeeded in making that amulet for Dreypa:Sorzus is currently two for two; I fail to see why she wouldn't/couldn't make an amulet for herself given she had over a year to do so and the resources neccessary.
She succeeded in making one for Dreypa after her journal entry. That in of itself would take time, and creating a far more powerful talisman would presumably take even more time, assuming it's even possible. Again, the fact that we have no confirmation of the Syn Talisman existing casts doubt over whether she managed to craft it in the first place.
Right... Cade openly noting how "weak" and "sick" Krayt is while fighting him and sensing how much the Vong implants were costing Krayt clearly isn't showing any sign of exhaustion? Yeah, right.The fact that it isn't outright shown doesn't mean that isn't the case, Nova. Much like how it's not always stated a nexus affects a person, but we know it does because that's how it functions. Your appeal to ignorance is noted, but worthless.
That's a sign of fatigue, not exhaustion. And that didn't happen within milliseconds.
You clearly don't even know what an appeal to ignorance means; just avoid using terms you don't understand. My point is that Krayt was clearly fighting for longer than milliseconds without being drained to the extent that you suggested earlier. That could well be the product of Muur's Dark Transfer, which we know worked (we just don't know the extent of it). I also find it interesting that Muur doesn't comment on Krayt's waning power, yet Cade did. It doesn't mean Krayt wasn't tired, but it lends credence to my stance.
]The fact that Morne was holding him back for over a century actually strengthens my argument as she'd now be on her ropes end after a 100 years of containing Karness(actually, she notes she controlled him for several millennia). She doesn't really have infinite mental fortitude and now Muur is starting to easily bypass and possess her while also "threatening to usurp her":She's worn out and even in casual situations she loses control of him:
We've gone through this already. Her influence was declining but not absent altogether. Ergo, Muur was still contending with her for control over her body.
These rather piteous attempts at bringing down Muur's situation are amusing. Just accept the fact that he wasn't at his full power and move on.
Not to mention Muur's pretty confident of his victory over Morne, as well.
As he was that he'd slain Sith far greater than Krayt.
It still isn't as big a hinderence as the Vong implants. In fact, Muur has access to both his and Celeste's Force reserves.
I don't know why the Vong implants are such a big focus of your argument. We're only suggesting that Muur > Vong Krayt, not Reborn Krayt, lol. The implants are a part of Vong Krayt's character; you don't subtract from his power again, lol.
Besides, the Muur in this thread is more powerful than Legacy Muur on merit of the fact that he isn't contending with Celeste for control over her body.
He wasn't injured yet at that point. Whether or not Krayt was being injured by Abeloth would be irrelevant since he still succeeded in sapping her and weakening her noticeably and growing because of it, something she wouldn't really allow.
She was weakened and contending with Luke at the same time, not to mention possessing various other bodies around the galaxy. But forget that; your comparison is just invalid. Muur Draining Krayt in a 1 on 1 as they were exchanging Lightning means that he had the upper hand. Krayt draining a distracted Luke and Abeloth who were primarily fighting each other, not him, doesn't mean he was beating them both. That's like comparing person X stabbing Y in a knife fight to person W stabbing U and Z in the back as the those two fight. They're not the same.
And there's still nothing to imply she actually helped Krayt after the two had a pause in combat. Even if she did help him, it was for literally a few seconds where he was siphoning Krayt's power.
There is something to imply it: at the time that she got blasted away by the Maelstrom, she was facing Muur from the same angle that she had been facing Celeste earlier on, and she was around the same range.
It was outshining Krayt's... due to the sickly state Krayt was in at the time, though. The quote is obviously contextual and doesn't automatically mean Karness Muur's power > Krayt's power.
Not sure if you're three pages behind the discussion or not, but we're talking about Vong Krayt. Krayt's sickly condition being a given since that's part of what makes him "Vong Krayt". I wasn't comparing raw power; I was comparing current, available power.