Gog vs. Gorr & OKT

Started by deathslash4 pages

Is this gorr at the end or the beginning of the story arc?

One thing's for sure (and I can get behind a split either way): I enjoy carver's cheerleading attempts.

OKT managed to go toe to toe with a dying Galactus. I dunno if that's enough to give him the win, but Gorr for sure get's his ass whooped here.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
One thing's for sure (and I can get behind a split either way): I enjoy carver's cheerleading attempts.

You remember the times when he was your personal cheerleader and you used to make out?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You remember the times when he was your personal cheerleader and you used to make out?

He never did, actually. It was always an enmity from the start.

Am surprised you didn't see the SAbes/Carnage thread.

Originally posted by Classic NES
OKT managed to go toe to toe with a dying Galactus.
It's always difficult to definitively gauge alternate versions of any character -- let alone Galactus.

Either way, a full-force punch from that version of Galactus sent OKT hurling completely through the earth and into the moon(think he hit the moon so hard it cracked in off), yet he shrugged it off just fine. With that in mind, I don't think it'd be a wise decision for Gog to sit there throw fisticuffs with OKT, given the old man's ridiculous durability. However, physicality isn't the only ability at Gog's disposal, either.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's always difficult to definitively gauge alternate versions of any character -- let alone Galactus.

Either way, a full-force punch from that version of Galactus sent OKT hurling completely through the earth and into the moon(think he hit the moon so hard it cracked in off), yet he shrugged it off just fine. With that in mind, I don't think it'd be a wise decision for Gog to sit there throw fisticuffs with OKT, given the old man's ridiculous durability. However, physicality isn't the only ability at Gog's disposal, either.

Fair enough, I dunno how it goes between Gog and the Old man. But, Gorr? He dies fast.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Fair enough, I dunno how it goes between Gog and the Old man. But, Gorr? He dies fast.
........you do know that gorr beat OKT, normal thor, and young thor right? Hell, wasn't he keeping OKT hostage in his own throne room for a few hundred years?

I'd go with team, but that Mxy blast dough.... Makes Mxy look real bad, but wutever..

Originally posted by deathslash
........you do know that gorr beat OKT, normal thor, and young thor right? Hell, wasn't he keeping OKT hostage in his own throne room for a few hundred years?

First of all, it was 10,000 years not 100 years. Second, we did not see the circumstances that lead up to OKT being held hostage by the Necrosword constructs, just the result. The Odin-Power which the monarchs of Asgard use, depletes with use and when he met up with his past selves and fought against Gorr. He had long depleted the Odin Force because the Asgardian Gaurd was long gone and he couldn't safely enter the Odin sleep to replenish his powers. When he did manage to scrap up enough power to use the full potential of the Odin force; even if it was just for a second--He proceeded to blast Gorr across space and Gorr needed a diaper change. So, I have no clue what you're trying to argue here.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'd go with team, but that Mxy blast dough.... Makes Mxy look real bad, but wutever..
I don't think it was a poor showing for Mxy at all, tbh.

a.) He was entirely unprepared for the blast.
b.) That staff is ridiculously haxx -- powerful enough to blow apart the phucking barriers/boundaries of Hypertime itself.

Originally posted by Classic NES
First of all, it was 10,000 years not 100 years. Second, we did not see the circumstances that lead up to OKT being held hostage by the Necrosword constructs, just the result. The Odin-Power which the monarchs of Asgard use, depletes with use and when he met up with his past selves and fought against Gorr. He had long depleted the Odin Force because the Asgardian Gaurd was long gone and he couldn't safely enter the Odin sleep to replenish his powers. When he did manage to scrap up enough power to use the full potential of the Odin force; even if it was just for a second--He proceeded to blast Gorr across space and Gorr needed a diaper change. So, I have no clue what you're trying to argue here.
1. I said a few hundred years, not a hundred.

2. Thank you, it's been a while since I've read the story and I'd obviously forgotten some details.

3. Gorr getting blasted across the galaxy kinda shows that he's capable of taking some hits from skyfathers and it's worth noting that he still fought three thors at the same time and even if we assumed that thor not managing to go into the Odin sleep put him back down to the high herald level, his victory over three thors should mean that he's at least around the mid trans tier.

3. I was trying to argue that gorr doesn't just get rolled like you were suggesting.

Originally posted by deathslash
1. I said a few hundred years, not a hundred.

2. Thank you, it's been a while since I've read the story and I'd obviously forgotten some details.

3. Gorr getting blasted across the galaxy kinda shows that he's capable of taking some hits from skyfathers and it's worth noting that he still fought three thors at the same time and even if we assumed that thor not managing to go into the Odin sleep put him back down to the high herald level, his victory over three thors should mean that he's at least around the mid trans tier.

3. I was trying to argue that gorr doesn't just get rolled like you were suggesting.

1. No problem

2. He got hit by a blast for a second and he was terrified. OKT that fought Galactus most likely replenished his powers and would be more than formidable to Gorr.

Originally posted by Classic NES
1. No problem

2. He got hit by a blast for a second and he was terrified. OKT that fought Galactus most likely replenished his powers and would be more than formidable to Gorr.

1. Thanks

2. He almost certainly replenished his power, but remember that he was fighting a weakened galactus (he was so weak that he was showing visible signs of age) and he only beat him by using the necroblade. Either way, I agree that this is a good fight, but I don't think that gorr just gets straight up rolled.

Originally posted by deathslash
1. Thanks

2. He almost certainly replenished his power, but remember that he was fighting a weakened galactus (he was so weak that he was showing visible signs of age) and he only beat him by using the necroblade. Either way, I agree that this is a good fight, but I don't think that gorr just gets straight up rolled.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Galan007
Granted his appearances are limited, but Gog still has feats enough to make this a great fight, imo.

His brute strength is sufficient to ragdoll numerous Supermen, and Superman-level beings, like fodder:

His speed is sufficient to easily out-perceive/react to a blitzing Flash:

Even when Rip Hunter was literally stepping in-between NANOseconds to try and out-speed Gog, it STILL wasn't remotely enough -- Gog countered him effortlessly:

*Mind you, Gog was able to preform the above speed feats while his concentration was also focused on the other beings fighting him. Insane.

Gog could also absorb [seemingly] ANY type of energy(be it magical, cosmic, elemental, etc.), and use it to amp his own power:

He could also manifest entirely new abilities on the fly, after stealing them from their host:

The heat of a DOZEN red suns, in fact:

However, his staff also contained vastly more power than just star-heat:

PIS or not, that immense power is why the staff was haxx enough to do retarded shit like blast a hole through an unprepared Mxy:

And shatter the barriers of Hypertime itself:

The dude was friggin ridiculous.

IF Gog can copy powers akin to Amazo, he should win. That's pretty impressive.

That Flash, incidentally, was pure Speed Force.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That Flash, incidentally, was pure Speed Force.
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Gorr was getting exponentially more powerful throughout the arc. Peak Gorr + OKT would be able to handle Gog, otherwise it could go either way.

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think it was a poor showing for Mxy at all, tbh.

a.) He was entirely unprepared for the blast.
b.) That staff is ridiculously haxx -- powerful enough to blow apart the phucking barriers/boundaries of Hypertime itself.


a) 👆
b) His staff is definitely powerful what with all the dozen red suns and such, but hypertime boundaries has been broken by others.

Mxy is a universal++/multiversal reality warper. The way he folded here like a cheap suit leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. He didn't even reform immediately and make the attack look inconsequential like Emp Joker or SF DS...

Extremely low showing for sure and very high for Gog.