Re: Where Is The Line Drawn?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
In 2012, a quote was worth virtually nothing without tangible showcase to support it.
Pretty sure this wasn't universal, just a thing among a certain group of people that held more sway back then than now.
Fast forward 5 years, and a tangible showcase is worth virtually nothing without a quote to support it.
Wrong, lifting heavy things can be impressive without an affirmative excerpt.
In the past, I've always been in support of accolades being more integrated into Star Wars discussions, even despite the fact that characters I generally champion (i.e. Revan) are generally hurt by them, not helped (via limitations established by Darth Plagueis, Yoda, and Palpatine). However, I've now observed that there is such an emphasis on accolades that proper debate and discussion is virtually impossible.
It does curtail debate, but it's not really wrong either.
As it stands, a quote is absolute. If it is stated, then it is law.
Yes, for the most part, given that it's not contradicted by a depicted event or alternative source. There tend to be several interpretations of quotes though, some more liberal than others.
For one, why are some quotes embraced fully, but others ignored (or, frankly, avoided)? For example, if the policy for Star Wars quotes was fully employed by members here, Palpatine as of Dark Empire is factually more powerful than the Son (and Palpatine as of Revenge of the Sith is more powerful than Abeloth).
There are counter-quotes that address these issues.
It is canonical, as per the policy most members have here, that Darth Vader is a better fighter than RotJ Palpatine. Not only is this stated, but these stats can consistently be traced across numerous sources. It is also canonical fact that Palpatine has a weaker lightsaber defense than Dooku, that Qui-Gon would offer more to a battle than Yoda, etc. So I ask: why are statements from some sources accepted while others dismissed, despite them all equally being C-Canon?
Frankly I think the underlying truth is that even though there's no official established hierarchy among C-canon material, there's an obvious difference in status between the SWTOR Encyclopedia and some obscure scholastic magazine in debates.
It's not a pretty answer, and it'd be pretty difficult to made a hard policy around it, but it's the truth. And, just like before, I don't think that way of thinking is particularly wrong either.
Don't answer,
**** you.
In particular, some sources will have certain opinions of characters that are inconsistent with the majority of Star Wars sources.
Isn't the policy here to favor the majority or the most recent entry?
On a side note, the source states that Mace Windu had to use "all his skills" to defeat Asajj Ventress. Many members dismiss this one way or another, but the quote is explicit and there is nothing directly contradicting it.
Y'know, I never saw what the big deal was about this quote.
It's just boring and I, at the very least, will no longer be adhering to the generally accepted policy.
The weird, crooked rules you come up with from time to time also take the fun out of debating for the rest of the world, fyi.
and of those who won't, those who will take jabs at me personally
Does my previous comment count? 🙂