Originally posted by Surtur
I don't know. Why does this mean Cell can destroy a solar system?I agree, using the shitty power levels system, sure he can. I thought we used feats, thanks for correcting me bro.
Anime and comics are two different things, especially DBZ since their entire system is based off power levels. It's like saying Nappa can't destroy the moon because he doesn't have the fts even though we know he could easily do it without even taking the approach of doing it.
Cell doesn't have a single ft showing he can destroy a planet...do you think he can do it.
Originally posted by carver9
Anime and comics are two different things, especially DBZ since their entire system is based off power levels.
And right there is why people dislike debating DBZ fans. You seem to want a different set of rules because reasons. Or in this case: because anime.
It's like saying Nappa can't destroy the moon because he doesn't have the fts even though we know he could easily do it without even taking the approach of doing it.
Nah, it's not like saying that, cuz Nappa casually overpowered people who can destroy a moon. Did Cell overpower someone who could destroy a solar system or something?
Cell doesn't have a single ft showing he can destroy a planet...do you think he can do it.
He can destroy a planet, because that is an established level of power on the show at the time. Solar system busting? Was not.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The entire DB is based on that system.
Cell can't destroy an island because he doesn't have the fts. I wonder why so many people on KMC think Superman or Hulk can destroy a planet. Neither has done it, so I'm trying to figure out why they think this. Hell, can Doomsday destroy one? He did punch the ground before and he is known for not holding back.
Originally posted by carver9
Cell can't destroy an island because he doesn't have the fts. I wonder why so many people on KMC think Superman or Hulk can destroy a planet. Neither has done it, so I'm trying to figure out why they think this. Hell, can Doomsday destroy one? He did punch the ground before and he is known for not holding back.
Lol don't say silly things. Cell didn't show the power to destroy a solar system. Nobody did.
Now, if you can say that nobody showed the power to destroy an island, ever, you would have a point. Are you saying nobody ever destroyed an island in the entire history of Dragonball?
Originally posted by carver9
He was amped when he did this.
Okay and?
I didn't say normal level heat vision. I said all heat vision.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The entire DB is based on that system.
No, it isn't. It was introduced with the scouter and ditched after they stopped using them. It's as important to the plot as Senzu beans, probably less so.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Actually, statements are being used here all the time...DBZ isn't even allowed on this forum, if you want to get technical.
Statements backed up by feats. I ask again: Cell destroying 1/4 of a solar system, just for some supporting evidence? Something, anything, to lend credence to his claim. Cuz there is a boatload of difference between a planet and a solar system.
Originally posted by Surtur
And right there is why people dislike debating DBZ fans. You seem to want a different set of rules because reasons. Or in this case: because anime.Nah, it's not like saying that, cuz Nappa casually overpowered people who can destroy a moon. Did Cell overpower someone who could destroy a solar system or something?
He can destroy a planet, because that is an established level of power on the show at the time. Solar system busting? Was not.
It's common sense tbh. If someone is far more powerful, they would generate more power in their blasts. It's like saying Superman heat vision is equal to Prime heat vision when we know the level of power Prime is at means that he would generate far more power.
Wait a minute, strength and blasting power are two different things. Roshi destroyed the moon, so show me Roshi blast being overpowered by Nappa blast.
So you are limiting DBZ blasts at planetary level. Something that a weak Vegeta was able to do? So no one on the show is above planetary?
Originally posted by carver9
It's common sense tbh. If someone is far more powerful, they would generate more power in their blasts. It's like saying Superman heat vision is equal to Prime heat vision when we know the level of power Prime is at means that he would generate far more power.Wait a minute, strength and blasting power are two different things. Roshi destroyed the moon, so show me Roshi blast being overpowered by Nappa blast.
So you are limiting DBZ blasts at planetary level. Something that a weak Vegeta was able to do? So no one on the show is above planetary?
I'm saying that the established level of power at the time was nowhere near solar system destroying(in one shot) and thus Cells claim seems like hyperbole at best.
We have feats of other people destroying moons and planets. We don't have them one shotting star systems.
You're multiplying power levels based on numbers given, not actual feats.
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol don't say silly things. Cell didn't show the power to destroy a solar system. Nobody did.Now, if you can say that nobody showed the power to destroy an island, ever, you would have a point. Are you saying nobody ever destroyed an island in the entire history of Dragonball?
You are asking for fts. We do not share fts for characters. Example, even though Odin is strong, we wouldn't post scans of Gladiator punching a planet to dust to support Odin being capable of doing it. If you are arguing fts, be consistent. Roshi fts doesn't belong to Cell, so why do you think Cell could destroy an island when he doesn't have the fts? It's not like he won a blast clash against Roshi. Remember, Roshi fts doesn't belong to Cell.
Originally posted by Surtur
Sucks for DBZ then, since this is a forum based on feats, no?
I don't have a problem with the power-scaling and people saying that feats from weaker characters can be replicated by stronger characters. Because in DBZ they all use most of the same powers: Chi or Qi (However it's spelled). What I do have a problem with is when DBZ tards start abusing it and saying nonsense like SSJ( insert number here) can destroy the universe because he's a million times stronger than Cell who can destroy a Solar System. I hate that kind of abuse.