Originally posted by SunRazer
Fighting well is not the same as dominating them. Pushing them back to inflict no injury whatsoever is not dominating them.He contended, but he didn't dominate shit. And yes, the environment favored Revan considerably.
I acknowledge that setting favored Revan.
One more thing: what about Revan's spirit? Wasn't it involved?
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Show me Revan beating/statlemating Yoda & overpowering his Tutinamis.
Show me Revan choking out Dooku through the Galaxy.
Show me Revan draining & dominating Byss habitants.
Show me Revan destroying the Surface of planets.
etc.
Yavin IV is the only setting where we witness Revan willing to go to extreme lengths to accomplish something. However, a large coalition of Galaxy's greatest champions assembled and stopped him in time.
What's with bringing Yoda into everything? Revan (Reborn) is arguably the most powerful Jedi in galactic history before Yoda; Revan, as of SoR, is above Revan (Reborn) but not a Jedi.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Revan wasn't a Sith and was unlikely to go to such lengths for personal gains. Darth Malgus once remarked that Revan could dominate an entire world, if he ever wanted to. Open to interpretation but it is something.
Yavin IV is the only setting where we witness Revan willing to go to extreme lengths to accomplish something. However, a large coalition of Galaxy's greatest champions assembled and stopped him in time.
What's with bringing Yoda into everything? Revan (Reborn) is arguably the most powerful Jedi galactic history before Yoda; Revan, as of SoR, is above Revan (Reborn).
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDAs Nova has pointed out, he didn't legitimately dominate anyone.
Right.Show me a single example of Palpatine dominating a group of Galaxy's most powerful and talented warriors with Force powers much like Revan in any setting.
That or you are a moron.
On the other hand, Sidious blitzed three of the galaxy's most powerful and talented warriors in seconds, and he'd do the same here. 👆
Originally posted by SunRazer
Fighting well is not the same as dominating them. Pushing them back to inflict no injury whatsoever is not dominating them.He contended, but he didn't dominate shit. And yes, the environment favored Revan considerably.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
As Nova has pointed out, he didn't legitimately dominate anyone.On the other hand, Sidious blitzed three of the galaxy's most powerful and talented warriors in seconds, and he'd do the same here. 👆
1. Unsually large Strike Team comprising of some of the Galaxy's finest
2. Satele Shan's Battle Meditation
3. Revan's spirit supporting the coalition
Now imagine a coalition like that bringing its power to bear against a single foe in an open environment. We cannot fault Revan for failing against such odds.
Palpatine needs a Force Storm or something similar to overcome that coalition in single combat. I doubt he would get the opportunity to blitz some members in the same setting where Revan contended with them.
As for the confrontation you mentioned:
I have an observation. Those Jedi Masters confronted Palpatine in a seemingly cramped location. They also stood very close to each other instead of surrounding Palpatine from different angles. That gave Palpatine an opportunity to utilize his incredible speed to his advantage and cut 3 of them down in quick succession. During that moment, Mace Windu got sufficient window to sink into Vaapad. The Jedi clearly underestimated Palpatine.
Strategy makes difference, specially in a closed setting.
Originally posted by Ursumeles
He still hasn't done anything comparable to Byss.
Also, quote?
My point is about RAW POWER, not demonstrated feats.
As for the quote:
"What do we know about the Jedi Master and this space station?
"Each could dominate worlds."*
*Darth Malgus
Originally posted by Ursumeles
I know what happened, lmao.
And pushing a Strike Team is not comparable to Sidious' showings lol
Originally posted by Ursumeles
You wanted to see Sidious dominating a Strike Team like the Yavin one.
I want to see Revan overpowering a Yoda-tier force user before growing more powerful.
And yeah, Revan is the strongest pre-Yoda Jedi. And? Yoda still sh!ts on him lmao.
Just like Exar Kun was the strongest pre-Vitiate Sith, and Vitty is still easily superior.
Yoda doesn't shits on Revan. He is stronger than Revan (Reborn) but to what extent, is open to speculation. Revan (SoR) is a leap from Revan (Reborn) by the way and not a Jedi so Yoda's accolade doesn't covers Revan (SoR).
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDUhuh, I'm looking for feats, not excuses.
It is not that simple.1. Unsually large Strike Team comprising of some of the Galaxy's finest
2. Satele Shan's Battle Meditation
3. Revan's spirit supporting the coalitionNow imagine a coalition like that bringing its power to bear against a single foe in an open environment. We cannot fault Revan for failing against such odds.
Palpatine needs a Force Storm or something similar to overcome that coalition in single combat. I doubt he would get the opportunity to blitz some members in the same setting where Revan contended with them.
As for the confrontation you mentioned:
I have an observation. Those Jedi Masters confronted Palpatine in a seemingly cramped location. They also stood very close to each other instead of surrounding Palpatine from different angles. That gave Palpatine an opportunity to utilize his incredible speed to his advantage and cut 3 of them down in quick succession. During that moment, Mace Windu got sufficient window to sink into Vaapad. The Jedi clearly underestimated Palpatine.
Strategy makes difference, specially in a closed setting.
And naw, he'd kill the non-Force sensitives with a gesture. Then proceed to toy with/blitz the rest. And Palpatine blitzed those masters because through sheer speed darling, this is made apparent by multiple sources, that it had to do with the cramped condition is complete conjecture, and supported by nothing. And sending four of the finest Jedi in the Order to take him down is hardly what I'd call underestimation. But no, they were not prepared for Sheev, the TOR phags won't fare any better.
This isn't even his best either, as you yourself pointed out, Sidious cut down all three before Windu got a clue, and he'd later go on to prove too fast for TCW Maul to perceive. The TOR strike team stands no chance against something that can't hope to keep up with.