Ranking Darth Revan

Started by S_W_LeGenD7 pages

I am not sure why this is even an argument. Chris Avellone himself perceives Revan to be much stronger than Jedi Exile. The novel made this official. Coincidence much?

Also, fans of KoTOR 2 are way too critical of the novel. They take character statements in KoTOR 2 as gospel but revelations in the novel are wrong?

What all of us should do is to try to connect the dots from multiple sources and see what we get.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I don't even recall that argument.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=633369&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I am not sure why this is even an argument. Chris Avellone himself perceives Revan to be much stronger than Jedi Exile. The novel made this official. Coincidence much?

Avellone didn't write the novel; Drew Karpyshyn did. And they have differing opinions; Avellone thinks Revan would kick the Exile's ass in a duel and yet Drew thinks the Exile is a better duelist.

Also, fans of KoTOR 2 are way too critical of the novel. They take character statements in KoTOR 2 as gospel but revelations in the novel are wrong?

What all of us should do is to try to connect the dots from multiple sources and see what we get.

The call of someone completely ignorant about KotOR II. The novel makes plenty of incorrect assertions about KotOR II, and we know this from official, objective sources, not just character statements.

[i]Originally posted by SunRazer [i]
Avellone didn't write the novel; Drew Karpyshyn did. And they have differing opinions; Avellone thinks Revan would kick the Exile's ass in a duel and yet Drew thinks the Exile is a better duelist.

According to that writer, Darth Malak was also relatively a superior duelist.

However, author's argument is that Revan adopted a customized dueling style that enabled him to incorporate his Force powers and make the most of his talents in a duel in a seamless manner. This enabled Revan to defeat even a relatively superior swordsman without much effort.

[i]Originally posted by SunRazer [i]

The call of someone completely ignorant about KotOR II. The novel makes plenty of incorrect assertions about KotOR II, and we know this from official, objective sources, not just character statements.


Looks like I will connect the dots.

Indeed. That's just proof that author statements shouldn't be taken as gospel; I certainly don't. I'm just saying that your argument made no sense.

Drew doesn't think the Exile is a better duelist anyway.

Avellone thinks Revan is way better than the Exile, though.

You can be a better duelist and end up having a draw with them in a fight. You literally just complained about that in your blog.

Anyways, this is proof that author quotes (which they always go out of their way to say shouldn't be taken as canon) are irreconcilable with one another and therefore have no way of being placed into continuity.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Indeed. That's just proof that author statements shouldn't be taken as gospel; I certainly don't. I'm just saying that your argument made no sense.

Do you think Jedi Exile could circumvent Revan's potent combination of battle precognition, speed and raw power in a duel?

Her technical skills won't make much difference against that because Revan will predict her moves with greater clarity and outgun her.

Avellone also thinks his concept of Darth Revan and the Ancient Sith can f*ck around with galaxies and a whole host of other things.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Anyways, this is proof that author quotes (which they always go out of their way to say shouldn't be taken as canon) are irreconcilable with one another and therefore have no way of being placed into continuity.

While your motives are blatantly clear, no, this just means Drew doesn't want to comment on who wins whereas Avellone is pretty specific.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Avellone also thinks his concept of Darth Revan and the Ancient Sith can f*ck around with galaxies and a whole host of other things.

Avellone wasn't referring to their power when referring to that.

No he was thinking about the psychology/strategy of the fight, in the parts that you always like to cut out whenever you reference it.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Avellone also thinks his concept of Darth Revan and the Ancient Sith can f*ck around with galaxies and a whole host of other things.

That point is misunderstood.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
While your motives are blatantly clear, no, this just means Drew doesn't want to comment on who wins whereas Avellone is pretty specific.

Drew only says that because he finds the idea of a fight being restricted to only one aspect ridiculous. Nothing like what you're suggesting.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
While your motives are blatantly clear, no, this just means Drew doesn't want to comment on who wins whereas Avellone is pretty specific.

Not sure what motives you're talking about when I accept that Revan Reborn > KotOR II Exile (never mind novel Surik, who isn't even worth mentioning next to him) and dismiss all author quotes. I don't even take Drew's quote as legit; I think Revan's more skilled than Surik.

And you certainly don't get to comment on other people having agendas, lmfao.

I haven't had any agenda besides keeping the status quo for a while now, besides on Anakin.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Do you think Jedi Exile could circumvent Revan's potent combination of battle precognition, speed and raw power in a duel?

Her technical skills won't make much difference against that because Revan will predict her moves with greater clarity and outgun her.

Being a duelist includes that sort of stuff.

Anyways, my point is that none of these author quotes are legit. Just forget about them. Ignore them.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I haven't had any agenda besides keeping the status quo for a while now.

The status quo for you has always been to wank Revan.🙂

Originally posted by SunRazer
The status quo for you has always been to wank Revan.🙂

So, where do we stand? To what degree is KOTOR Revan more powerful than KOTOR 2 Exile?