Exar Kun vs Novel Viitate

Originally posted by AncientPower
Except Chee's involvement is pure speculation when we have two instances of him disowning power levels in their entirety.

You've still yet to provide any proof for why Exar Kun's numerous quotes placing him near Palpatine are somehow retconned.

At best all you're doing is calling Chee a hypocrite and that somehow means it doesn't count because he was chained to his previous ways like magic and nobody is allowed to change their opinion even slightly?

And just because someone might be a hypocrite, that doesn't mean their point or intention doesn't count. I'm not saying he is - as him merely agreeing with another guy about people above someone is not really a big deal - but if he was, that doesn't strike out what he's actually saying or his intention putting aside the hypocrisy.

"He disowned power levels, so he's not allowed to say Sidious is above Darth Maul."

Is this how far we've fallen?

Kun is legit below Kenobi lol

We can get to that when someone actually provides proof that either:

A.) Chee actually edited and approved the web supplements in question, and not just the overall site in question.

B.) Chee's liking of Cory's tweet can only possibly mean one thing.

Then maybe this gets interesting.

Originally posted by AncientPower
You've still yet to provide any proof for why Exar Kun's numerous quotes placing him near Palpatine are somehow retconned.

Originally posted by AncientPower
B.) Chee's liking of Cory's tweet can only possibly mean one thing.

Then maybe this gets interesting.

Let's take that to the extreme right now because of how extremely stubborn this is:

"All babies should be sterilized at birth."
*Leland Chee liked your post XD*

Your point is basically that Cory exists and therefore Chee is obligated to like any post that comes out of him even if he disagrees. You think he'd be liking the posts if there wasn't any truth to the content? You think he'd be liking them if Cory started going on racist rants?

Cory isn't on death's door and every moment is a blessing to my recollection. He doesn't need pity shares and likes.

Maybe the craziest explanation is that Chee actually agreed with the post?

Keep in mind that people like all these little stupid posts like "toes look funny teehee" because they find humor or truth in them.

I especially love that AP thinks repeating her opinion makes it fact/incontrovertible.

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Originally posted by AncientPower
The entire SF Malak > Kun quote has been thoroughly debunked.

It depends, vitiate is level moon, because it has enough energy to blow our moon about at least thirteen times

Originally posted by snoke123
It depends, vitiate is level moon, because it has enough energy to blow our moon about at least thirteen times

Interested in the calcs that prompted you to come to this conclusion.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
We are in agreement that it drains, however one with enough power/mental ability can control/harness the power of the forge instead of being consumed(drained).

1. Yes, and your mental power has nothing to do with your Force strength. There are non-Force sensitive with great mind power, whatsover...
Also, I strongly believe that when his men stated that the Star Forge is at that capacity - they meant that the droid construction has begun.

But this literally states that it was a Darkside Nexus, which is an object or place that has been imbued with the darkside. doesn't matter if it consumes, Malachor had a similar effect. Which only solidifies it.

2. You don't get it. The thing with the Star Forge is that it consumes Dark Side energy. It doesn't 'release' it. Yes, it is filled with Dark Side energy because it consumes Dark Side energy. If I eat food, it makes sense that my stomach is full of food. But that doesn't mean I can give it to you.

As about Malachor V. It's a little more complicated that that. When the Mass Shadow Generator was turned on - it caused a major Wound in the Force - however the Trayus Academy 'survived' on the inside and its Dark Side energies remained there.

We could always go back to the standard viewpoint (ie, without evidence that the Star Forge was the explanation for Malak's powers far surpassing Kun's, standard Malak himself is far stronger than Kun).

So Darth Malak > Exar Kun? 😑

Impressive! Most impressive.

And why not? He knows Force Lightning, and, unlike Kun, he knows Force Drain. Hell, he can physically deform his victims with Force Drain.

That's better than Traya/Nihilus can say.

Traya in that cutscene where she drained 20 Assassins and Nihilus in gameplay against your companions.

Originally posted by Geistalt
We could always go back to the standard viewpoint (ie, without evidence that the Star Forge was the explanation for Malak's powers far surpassing Kun's, standard Malak himself is far stronger than Kun).

And where is that evidence?

What has Malak done to suggest he is on Exar Kun's league?

An imposing figure with ghostly pale features, prominent Sith tattoos, a gleaming red lightsaber, and devastating Dark Side power, Malak struck terror into the hearts of his former allies. He also wore a vocal mask that may have concealed a form of cybernetic life-support. Did it provide him with powers far greater than even Exar Kun or Freedon Nadd, or was cybernetic enhancement too simple an explanation?

Originally posted by MythLord
These don't exist, tho.

If he could face this final test, Luke would know that Kyp had passed through the fire of his testing-tempered by forces as dire and powerful as those Luke himself had endured. . . .
- Champions of the Force

I won't burden you with what I've found in the Databank, or Tom Veitch's book. Well, not until my thread is done.

Originally posted by Geistalt
He doesn't need actions, just like Exar Kun doesn't need Lusankya-burying or a Force Storm wormhole to be in Darth Sidious' league.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=16553631#post16553631

Might want to attempt to counter this argument first, because I can't be bothered going through this again.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
So you're of the opinion that Chee would just like anything that Cory says even if he strongly disagrees? That is a very stubborn and illogical point.

Let's take that to the extreme right now because of how extremely stubborn this is:

"All babies should be sterilized at birth."
*Leland Chee liked your post XD*

Your point is basically that Cory exists and therefore Chee is obligated to like any post that comes out of him even if he disagrees. You think he'd be liking the posts if there wasn't any truth to the content? You think he'd be liking them if Cory started going on racist rants?

Cory isn't on death's door and every moment is a blessing to my recollection. He doesn't need pity shares and likes.

Maybe the craziest explanation is that Chee actually agreed with the post?

Keep in mind that people like all these little stupid posts like "toes look funny teehee" because they find humor or truth in them.

Way to massively dodge the point. Chee's liking of a Twitter post he was tagged in by a former SW authority figure isn't nearly as definitive as you're passing it off as.

Because a cybernetic mask can produce a fleet of ships whose power surpasses Kun's.

The explanation could just be

a) the Star Forge
b) cybernetic enhancement / life support
c) a lifetime of training under Revan
d) natural strength

or any combination thereof.