Supergirl vs. MCU Thor

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Since when were they friends? Banner had just met them. Banner was caught in the explosion which transformed him into the Hulk, for all he knew it was Widow that attacked him. Thor attacked Hulk first.

As I said prove it.

Wow. This is so facepalm worthy. You don't attack people without reason unless you're out of control. You especially don't attack people whom you were just very recently talking to and considered allies unless you're out of control.

Hulk was on the verge of killing Black Widow. You do not try to kill someone who has done nothing to you unless you are out of control. Thor tackled Hulk to stop him from killing Widow. After that, Hulk threw the first punch.

There is no way you can twist this to seem like Hulk was not out of control.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Wow. This is so facepalm worthy. You don't attack people without reason unless you're out of control. You especially don't attack people whom you were just very recently talking to and considered allies unless you're out of control.

Hulk was on the verge of killing Black Widow. You do not try to kill someone who has done nothing to you unless you are out of control. Thor tackled Hulk to stop him from killing Widow. After that, Hulk threw the first punch.

There is no way you can twist this to seem like Hulk was not out of control.

Widow was a case of wrong place wrong time. Hulk was bound to lash out after what happened to him. Sure but you're not looking at it through Hulks eyes, Thor tackled him out of nowhere, Hulk was reacting to that.

As I said prove it. I'd argue Age of Ultron Hulk was truly out of control, he was literally slapping himself in the face and killing people for no reason.

LOL!!!!

Originally posted by The Sorrow
This is the Hulk we're talking about, same Hulk who gets furious just at the mention of his alter egos name, lol at trying to compare him to other heroes.

Widow was a case of wrong place wrong time. Hulk was bound to lash out after what happened to him. Sure but you're not looking at it through Hulks eyes, Thor tackled him out of nowhere, Hulk was reacting to that.

As I said prove it. I'd argue Age of Ultron Hulk was truly out of control, he was literally slapping himself in the face and killing people for no reason.

I've already proven it. Hulk attacking teammates = Hulk out of control = Hulk not holding back. These are all facts and just plain common sense.

Now if you want to claim he was holding back then YOU need to prove that since it goes against what we saw on screen. And when I say proof, I mean something more than your weak theories like "maybe she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time".

Well we'll get a rematch soon in Thor:Ragnorak.

And looks like Thor will fight Hulk without Mjolnir 💃

Originally posted by FrothByte
I've already proven it. Hulk attacking teammates = Hulk out of control = Hulk not holding back. These are all facts and just plain common sense.

Now if you want to claim he was holding back then YOU need to prove that since it goes against what we saw on screen. And when I say proof, I mean something more than your weak theories like "maybe she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time".

Your circular logic is a reach, point blank. By the same logic I could say Hulks punch against the Leviathan was notably more forceful than the punch he hit Thor with, which means he wasn't using his full strength in the Thor fight like you claimed.

Sorry but AOU Hulk was far more enraged and actually was out of control it's not even a comparison tbh. Avengers Hulk lashed out but killed no one, was it even nailed on that Hulk would've killed Widow in the end there? Iirc he seemed a little hesistant before Thor tackled him. Point is if you had said AOU Hulk was not holding back instead I'd have moretime agreed with you because it's night and day between the 2 showings, and I don't know how someone can realistically say Avengers Hulk was him not holding back after they saw Hulk vs Hulkbuster fight.

Any way not going to go make this all about Hulk vs Thor, if you need to reply cool, just agree to disagree.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well we'll get a rematch soon in Thor:Ragnorak.

And looks like Thor will fight Hulk without Mjolnir 💃

Originally posted by The Sorrow
So you're happy Thor is going to get stomped? 😈

Without Mjolnir, you better pray it's a stomp 😛

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Enraged =/= Going all out
Cool story bruh but Hulk wasn't their teammate at the time, that doesn't prove he was out of control. He did what Hulk does, smash first ask questions later, Widow was fair game given the context and what we know about Hulk.

Your circular logic is a reach, point blank. By the same logic I could say Hulks punch against the Leviathan was notably more forceful than the punch he hit Thor with, which means he wasn't using his full strength in the Thor fight like you claimed.

Sorry but AOU Hulk was far more enraged and actually was out of control it's not even a comparison tbh. Avengers Hulk lashed out but killed no one, was it even nailed on that Hulk would've killed Widow in the end there? Iirc he seemed a little hesistant before Thor tackled him. Point is if you had said AOU Hulk was not holding back instead I'd have moretime agreed with you because it's night and day between the 2 showings, and I don't know how someone can realistically say Avengers Hulk was him not holding back after they saw Hulk vs Hulkbuster fight.

Any way not going to go make this all about Hulk vs Thor, if you need to reply cool, just agree to disagree.

Apparently Hulk trying to kill Black Widow for no reason at all is not indicative of him being out of control? Cool story bruh. I see what you're doing here. You have no proof to back up your claims and instead are trying to strawman the hell out of something that should be common sense.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Without Mjolnir, you better pray it's a stomp 😛

Thor has home advantage it won't be a stomp lol. TBH I don't even care about the fight, I just want Hulk to speak and his relationship with Banner to have progressed from AOU. Plus of course we need a "strongest one there is" kind of feat we haven't really had one yet. Looking forward to seeing Thors interactions with ppl like Hela, Odin and Loki after what happened in Dark World.

Thor will rely on skill as he always does while the hulk doesn't have to since he's the powerhouse which I've said from the beginning. I'm right as always. Can't wait to gloat.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
😂

Thor has home advantage it won't be a stomp lol. TBH I don't even care about the fight, I just want Hulk to speak and his relationship with Banner to have progressed from AOU. Plus of course we need a "strongest one there is" kind of feat we haven't really had one yet. Looking forward to seeing Thors interactions with ppl like Hela, Odin and Loki after what happened in Dark World.

I'd like an Avengers:Earth's Mightiest Heroes animation kind of Banner/Hulk relationship. That was always fun.

I think being physically stronger than Thor automatically implies Hulk as The Strongest One there is, on Earth at least. But outside of Earth when we have beings like Odin, Thanos and Surtur, I presume Hulk can't really keep that title.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
😂

Thor has home advantage it won't be a stomp lol. TBH I don't even care about the fight, I just want Hulk to speak and his relationship with Banner to have progressed from AOU. Plus of course we need a "strongest one there is" kind of feat we haven't really had one yet. Looking forward to seeing Thors interactions with ppl like Hela, Odin and Loki after what happened in Dark World.

Why would Thor have home advantage?

I doubt they'd make Thor get stomped by Hulk in his own movie.

I mean Marvel figured out a way to have Captain America not get stomped by Iron Man in his own movie.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Why would Thor have home advantage?

From what I have read about the film, it's actually the opposite. Apparently, by the time Thor gets there, Hulk has already established himself as a top fighter and a crowd favourite.

Originally posted by Surtur
I doubt they'd make Thor get stomped by Hulk in his own movie.

I mean Marvel figured out a way to have Captain America not get stomped by Iron Man in his own movie.

And somehow stomp Spidey who stomped Winter Soldier.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And somehow stomp Spidey who stomped Winter Soldier.

And then get overwhelmed by Winter Soldier himself, and tossed down an elevator shaft. 😐

Though, to be fair, Cap beat Spidey by pinning him down, and Bucky took very little part in the whole Falcon/Spiderman tussle. He literally threw one punch and then tossed a sign, and got hit and pinned when he tried to shield Falcon from Spiderman.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
And then get overwhelmed by Winter Soldier himself, and tossed down an elevator shaft. 😐

Though, to be fair, Cap beat Spidey by pinning him down, and Bucky took very little part in the whole Falcon/Spiderman tussle. He literally threw one punch and then tossed a sign, and got hit and pinned when he tried to shield Falcon from Spiderman.

Still it was clear WS was no match for Spidey, yet he was always portrayed as a near equal to Cap.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Still it was clear WS was no match for Spidey, yet he was always portrayed as a near equal to Cap.

Especially when the Russos themselves described Cap and Bucky as "peers", "doppelgangers" and "equally potent" during TWS Director's commentary. But, realistically, Spiderman should have manhandled the hell out of Cap. That fight is pretty much PIS.

At least they made it clear with Iron Man that he had no real interest in fighting Cap, and was focused on hurting Bucky. But even then, Tony's armour underperformed compared to previous films. Even his Mark 3 armour (his first proper suit), with an inferior arc reactor and very limited power, performed better than his Civil War suit did.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Especially when the Russos themselves described Cap and Bucky as "peers", "doppelgangers" and "equally potent" during TWS Director's commentary. But, realistically, Spiderman should have manhandled the hell out of Cap. That fight is pretty much PIS.

Well I put it down to Prime Cap beating Kid Spidey on experience. A>B>C doesn't always work (unless they're in a weight lifting contest lol).

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
At least they made it clear with Iron Man that he had no real interest in fighting Cap, and was focused on hurting Bucky. But even then, Tony's armour underperformed compared to previous films. Even his Mark 3 armour (his first proper suit), with an inferior arc reactor and very limited power, performed better than his Civil War suit did.

Honestly I have no issue with Cap putting up a fight in a tight environment. The tighter the environment the more of a threat Cap's combat abilities and Shield becomes. Important thing was they still showed IM > Cap.

What was more PIS was at the airport scene when both IM and WM decide to go toe to toe against Cap. I get that they were trying to restrain him, but surely they must have stun blasts or other forms of long range weapons designed to KO.