World War Superman

Originally posted by Philosophía
We spend months cataloguing every feat based on decades of history to maximize the abilities of characters. Writers don't do that.

If we have clear portrayals of characters going all-out, and Superman being clearly above everyone else, we don't go into retarded semantics of how we'd have written the fight.

If we go by your abhorrent stupidity, no comic book fight would ever matter, no matter the intent of the writers, because of how each of us would personally write the fights.

It's astonishing that this has to be explained to you.

What's astonishing is your inability to see past your failed argument. I saw no clear portrayal of every CHAR fighting to their best seeing as how the antagonist with all that big banging entropic awesomeness managed to get bfred and killed when he could have ended it casually. But hey you're still talking about writers intent when that has nothing to do with my op.

If only your reflexes were as fast as the last son of Krypton all this knowledge wouldn't keep going over your head...metaphorically speaking.

You're like a broken robot, who can't help but repeat the same thing over again.

Change your batteries, read some comics, and then hit me up.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You're like a broken robot, who can't help but repeat the same thing over again.

Change your batteries, read some comics, and then hit me up.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Everyone. Hero/villain alike fought to the best of their ability in OWAW? EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER INVOLVED?

Characters in comics are operating at average levels unless there is evidence that they aren't.

We assume characters are fighting to the best of their ability in a comic unless counter evidence exists. For example, Spidey not being able to respond to a 200mph punch is him not fighting to the best of his ability.

Holding back is a totally different discussion.

In summary, characters are operating at average levels unless shown or stated differently. Characters fighting stupidly, or not fighting smart as shown before, has no bearing on forum fight.

Superman has ftl reflexes and perception and great speed. He should clear without any difficulties.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You're like a broken robot, who can't help but repeat the same thing over again.

Change your batteries, read some comics, and then hit me up.

Concession accepted. Moving on....

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Concession accepted. Moving on....

Originally posted by h1a8
Electricity koing Superman are very low showings (do you have scans of this?) just like every character has. Superman has tanked far greater energy many many times.

No one here has the strength to hang with Superman under these stips, especially in a forum fight.

If the jist of your post is "Superman won't lose to Iron Man" then yes I agree.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Concession accepted. Moving on....

Now you might be the first trans-stupid person.

Lmao.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I said change your batteries, not take quanchi's motherboard.

Now you might be the first trans-stupid person.

owaw superman clears. max lord superman likely loses to zom but would have beaten sentry.

Originally posted by h1a8
"To the best of their abilities " has to be well defined. If you and others have a different meaning of the term then it any discussion about it can't take place.

Characters in comics are operating at average levels unless there is evidence that they aren't.

We assume characters are fighting to the best of their ability in a comic unless counter evidence exists. For example, Spidey not being able to respond to a 200mph punch is him not fighting to the best of his ability.

Holding back is a totally different discussion.

In summary, characters are operating at average levels unless shown or stated differently. Characters fighting stupidly, or not fighting smart as shown before, has no bearing on forum fight.

Superman has ftl reflexes and perception and great speed. He should clear without any difficulties.

H1 I get it. Seriously...i even "get " Phil's lackluster attempt at proving his point. I understand writers intent, powerset debating, whatever it is we do here at kmc..got it.

My whole thing was it would be nice to read a story arc where the playing field was level and everyone went ham. Imagine a comic book style royal rumble without Stephanie/Hunter/Vince pre-determining the winner. What if instead of throwing punches Logan popped his claws? What if instead of holding back Batman snapped limbs? Etc...u only see that stuff in elseworlds where dismemberment and character deaths aren't a big deal. I wouldnt even mind if the whole thing got retconned immediately after. Itd be nice to see.

Originally posted by SamZED
Is that what you call your penis?
I'm just trying to gauge how scary this threat is.

Your the first to see through to the real danger, I'm impressed. 👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thunder boy is what he calls his gimp.

Or Kid Thunderstrike.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
H1 I get it. Seriously...i even "get " Phil's lackluster attempt at proving his point. I understand writers intent, powerset debating, whatever it is we do here at kmc..got it.

My whole thing was it would be nice to read a story arc where the playing field was level and everyone went ham. Imagine a comic book style royal rumble without Stephanie/Hunter/Vince pre-determining the winner. What if instead of throwing punches Logan popped his claws? What if instead of holding back Batman snapped limbs? Etc...u only see that stuff in elseworlds where dismemberment and character deaths aren't a big deal. I wouldnt even mind if the whole thing got retconned immediately after. Itd be nice to see.

So, your criticism is they don't fight out of character?

Originally posted by Mindship
World War Supes sounds like a Supes capable of outlier feats. I think he's gonna clear this.

(I reviewed the fight with Zom Strange: I don't see why someone at least as strong as WWH -- and a helluva lot faster + more powers he's creative with -- wouldn't do at least as well.)

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
[b] Strange was resisting Zom and letting hulk pound on him at that point, He was easily above wwhulk. [/B]

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, your criticism is they don't fight out of character?

Not at all. It's that they don't fight to their best

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not at all. It's that they don't fight to their best

So what's "to their best?" Your post I quoted sure seemed to be "their best" is fighting out of character.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not at all. It's that they don't fight to their best

Politics, mostly. You can only make other characters look so bad before editors and executives will tell you to scale it back.