Before Beni says anything
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?style=4&f=3&t=48114
"C" canon which is pretty much everything else. By everything else I mean EVERYthing else. Novels, comics, junior novels, videogames, trading card games, roleplaying games, toys, websites, television. As I've mentioned earlier, any contradictions that arise are dealt on a case-by-case. This has been our general approach to continuity since we began using the Holocron database to track it.
Originally posted by SunRazer
For the Exile, these are her initial impressions of Nihilus' power:
Originally posted by SunRazer
And when she meets Nihilus in person she realizes that he's far more powerful than that (this is also an objective quote, which means it's not just a character opinion putting Nihilus over Revan):
If Kriea and Visas Marr weren't able to convince Surik, who could?
Remember that world-killing feats aren't norm and dismissed as rumors by people mostly.
Except Meetra has time to get over her "shock". Nihilus' power is repeatedly stated in those terms throughout the game by Kreia, Visas and Tobin. The fact that she realises Nihilus is far more powerful than her prior impression (which was already that Nihilus >> Revan) speaks for itself. You don't need to complicate it.
You also completely failed to respond to the points. There's no point addressing individual factors when you'll be making no impact whatsoever on the overall argument. Don't argue for the sake of it.
Originally posted by GeistaltAlready addressed, this is referring to the content of the Holocron.
Before Beni says anythinghttp://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?style=4&f=3&t=48114
Once again there isn't a single reason to read this fan blog as canon. 🙂
Originally posted by SunRazer
Except Meetra has time to get over her "shock". Nihilus' power is repeatedly stated in those terms throughout the game by Kreia, Visas and Tobin. The fact that she realises Nihilus is far more powerful than her prior impression (which was already that Nihilus >> Revan) speaks for itself. You don't need to complicate it.You also completely failed to respond to the points. There's no point addressing individual factors when you'll be making no impact whatsoever on the overall argument. Don't argue for the sake of it.
We have no idea where Surik ranked Darth Nihilus before meeting him. She listened to the account of Jedi Master of Kriea but expressed her disbelief in response. She realized her [error in judgement] when she met Darth Nihilus, that he was far stronger than she originally expected him to be. However, none of this affirms that Surik took the tale of Katarr at face value.
Meetra Surik did not perceive Darth Nihilus to be greater than Revan at any point; she never compared the latter two directly until the events of Revan and she ranked Revan higher. 👆
Originally posted by GeistaltI'm not sure what I'm supposed to be persuading Az of beyond not taking science teachers seriously. mmm
It should be clear by now that he's the only person raising hell (by trying to persuade Azronger to believe antiquated sources).
Regardless, I expect you all to have Darth Revan above Kun and the like from now on. Given you've no reason to dismiss it besides personal biased. 👆
"The most powerful Sith Lords possess a talent for the dark alchemy of the Sith. The Emperor, like Naga Sadow and Exar Kun long before him, became a master of manipulating the genetic building blocks of living creatures through the dark side. Over the millennia, many creatures have been broken, twisted, and rebuilt by this evil power."
This quote is inherently different from the Wizards of the Coast quote:
"The Star Wars universe has created some truly vile dark side villains. Have you ever wondered what would happen if the most powerful Sith Lords duked it out for supremacy of the galaxy?"
For one, the first quote doesn't specify what Sith "the most powerful Sith Lords" is referring to. Thus, a broader and looser interpretation is possible. The latter quote, by virtue of the content of the source, specifically refers to Darth Sidious, Darth Caedus, and Darth Revan exclusively. The quote would have to be fundamentally changed to mean "some" if referring to the latter by virtue of a select number of Sith already listed, whereas with the former, nothing is solidified and thus alternative views can be established.
The quote would specifically have to read...
"The Star Wars universe has created some truly vile dark side villains. Have you ever wondered what would happen if some of the most powerful Sith Lords duked it out for supremacy of the galaxy?"
... in order to convey what is being suggested. The first quote doesn't, again, since the generic statement doesn't attribute a specific number of Sith to its name.
The Wizards of the Coast quote is essentially saying:
"The Star Wars universe has created some truly vile dark side villains. Have you ever wondered what would happen if the most powerful Sith Lords: Darth Sidious, Darth Caedus, and Darth Revan, duked it out for supremacy of the galaxy?"
The whole premise of the source is specifically pitting the most powerful Sith Lords against each-other. Thus, it is only logical that the Sith listed would therefore be the most powerful Sith Lords. It wouldn't make sense if the source was listing the #1, #7, and #12 most powerful Sith Lord, yet emphasize that the battle that is about to play out will feature "the most powerful Sith Lords." Wizards of the Coast has miniatures for Darth Krayt, Darth Vader, Darth Nihilus, Exar Kun, Ulic Qel-Droma, etc. They could have used these characters for this confrontation if they so wished, but they instead opted specifically for these three, obviously because these three are, in fact, the best.
By arguing otherwise, it's the same as saying you're about to gather together "the most powerful Jedi" and you get Luke Skywalker, the Hero of Tython, and Obi-Wan Kenobi. In contrast, my interpretation, following the logic and intent of the source, is gathering together Luke Skywalker, Yoda, and the next best Jedi in order to provide "the most powerful Jedi," not just "some of the most powerful Jedi."