Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The fact the source is about putting the most powerful Sith against each-other and then proceeds to put three Sith against each other?
Well that's why I asked. I'm not seeing a head to head confrontation between the three anywhere, only combat between their "squads".
Where also, does it clarify exactly who it's talking about, as you said it does? Why could the quote not simply refer to Caedus and Palpatine?
Can you also clarify what information you have that makes you 100% certain the quote does not refer to strength as in the game characters? Both Palpatine and Revan seem immensely "strong" in their game abilities. Given the series is supposed to explain different variations in a game, skill sets in the game, etc, please clarify why you're so certain they're breaking from discussing the game for this singular sentence in an article?
For one, it's not referring to the game because Palpatine, Revan, and Caedus aren't the most powerful Sith within the Miniatures continuity.
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The premise is that "wouldn't it be cool if the most powerful Sith had a fight together?"
They then proceed to create a situation where the most powerful Sith do fight each-other using their game.
The Sith they select are therefore considered the most powerful Sith, and they selected Revan, Caedus, and Palpatine.
They split them among two teams and give them team-mates, but the most powerful Sith are still fighting nonetheless.
You're just desperately reaching. 😬
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
For one, it's not referring to the game because Palpatine, Revan, and Caedus aren't the most powerful Sith within the Miniatures continuity.
Interesting. Do you have a quote about the authors opinion that proves they view the miniatures continuity the same way? Or do you have any examples of canonical fact as to who else is the strongest miniatures Sith?
The premise is that "wouldn't it be cool if the most powerful Sith had a fight together?"They then proceed to create a situation where the most powerful Sith do fight each-other using their game.
The Sith they select are therefore considered the most powerful Sith, and they selected Revan, Caedus, and Palpatine.
They split them among two teams and give them team-mates, but the most powerful Sith are still fighting nonetheless.
Don't paraphrase my dear, write the full quote out 🙂
"Have you ever wondered what would happen if the most powerful Sith Lords duked it out for supremacy of the galaxy? We’ll try to answer that question in “Sith Showdown!”
I guess you're rig.... Oh. Oh wait.
"We'll try to answer that question in "Sith Showdown!"
mmm
That's interesting. You seem to be stating the first half of the quote applies to the whole mythos, yet the second half contradicts that entirely. Not once do they reference the mythos to support their argument, all they do is discuss how the game plays out. They talk about the battleground, the "intuition" rolls, and then open a message board to discuss the outcome.
That's hardly "answering" what happens when the canonical Revan, Sidious and Caedus match up against each other. It does however go a long way to answering what happens when the Miniatures Revan, Sidious and Caedus fight.
I don't buy it, sorry sweetie.
Interesting. Do you have a quote about the authors opinion that proves they view the miniatures continuity the same way? Or do you have any examples of canonical fact as to who else is the strongest miniatures Sith?
That's interesting. You seem to be stating the first half of the quote applies to the whole mythos, yet the second half contradicts that entirely. Not once do they reference the mythos to support their argument, all they do is discuss how the game plays out. They talk about the battleground, the "intuition" rolls, and then open a message board to discuss the outcome.That's hardly "answering" what happens when the canonical Revan, Sidious and Caedus match up against each other. It does however go a long way to answering what happens when the Miniatures Revan, Sidious and Caedus fight.
What?
The first half blatantly applies to the whole mythos, since it factually cannot apply to the Miniature game.
They are trying to answer a mythos question via using their game. It's not that hard to grasp.
It's like an action figure box going: "The most powerful Jedi and Sith are battling to the death. Who wins? You decide!"
The fact the toy has a non-canon interactive element doesn't mean that the former statement isn't a canonical one.
I don't buy it, sorry sweetie.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Miniatures has stats that define the strength of all the characters. Opinions aren't necessary.
Yes, they most certainly are. Palpatine's stats are average, his passive ability is insane. Hence he is a "powerful" character, perhaps the most powerful, despite lacking stats that show it.
What?The first half blatantly applies to the whole mythos, since it factually cannot apply to the Miniature game.
They are trying to answer a mythos question via using their game. It's not that hard to grasp.
It's like an action figure box going: "The most powerful Jedi and Sith are battling to the death. Who wins? You decide!"
The fact the toy has a non-canon interactive element doesn't mean that the former statement isn't a canonical one.
You have entirely failed to prove that it "factually cannot apply to the Miniature game" however. Until you do, the rest of your argument is irrelevant, I'm afraid.
Originally posted by Selenial
Yes, they most certainly are. Palpatine's stats are average, his passive ability is insane. Hence he is a "powerful" character, perhaps the most powerful, despite lacking stats that show it.You have entirely failed to prove that it "factually cannot apply to the Miniature game" however. Until you do, the rest of your argument is irrelevant, I'm afraid.
http://www.rebelscum.com/SWmini/SWminiLOTF04caeduscardfr.jpg
http://www.rebelscum.com/SWmini/SWminiCOTF10banecardfr.jpg
http://www.rebelscum.com/SWmini/SWminiCOTF13exarkuncardfr.jpg
Compare Bane and Kun's cards to Caedus' - Kun's especially.
I'd say they're blatantly better. 😬 I imagine you'll disagree because you desperately don't want this quote to be accepted, though. 😂
http://www.pojo.com/starwarsminis/motd/2006/Jul/07.shtml
Here's a website for fans of the game. Obviously not canonical, but I'm inclined to take their belief on which characters are strong in the game and which are weak over yours, Selenial. They state how Exar Kun's powers are likely the greatest in the game.
http://www.pojo.com/starwarsminis/motd/2008/June/13.shtml
Here's their review of Caedus. They considered Kun significantly better.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Compare Bane and Kun's cards to Caedus' - Kun's especially.I'd say they're blatantly better. 😬 I imagine you'll disagree because you desperately don't want this quote to be accepted, though. 😂
So you're going off your own opinion, because you can't prove anything? 🙂
The only one desperate for a consensus on this quote is you, sweetheart.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
http://www.pojo.com/starwarsminis/motd/2006/Jul/07.shtmlHere's a website for fans of the game. Obviously not canonical, but I'm inclined to take their belief on which characters are strong in the game and which are weak over yours, Selenial. They state how Exar Kun's powers are likely the greatest in the game.
http://www.pojo.com/starwarsminis/motd/2008/June/13.shtml
Here's their review of Caedus. They considered Kun significantly better.
Interesting that they quite openly admit, in the links you posted, that Kun is weaker than Caedus in certain environments/game modes. Since you're still not able to actually prove anything beyond your own baseless conjecture, and fanon articles however, I still deem this quote irrelevant 🙂
Originally posted by Selenial
Interesting that they quite openly admit, in the links you posted, that Kun is weaker than Caedus in certain environments/game modes.
Since you're still not able to actually prove anything beyond your own baseless conjecture, and fanon articles however, I still deem this quote irrelevant smile
If that was the case, every KotOR II quote in existence would be dismissed, lmfao.
I've provided ample evidence of various opinions ranking Kun as the better piece than Caedus.
You've provided actually no evidence to the contrary.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No they don't?
They rate Kun as weak in small scale engagements, say Caedus and Revan etc are better bang for their buck in small group fights (IE limited cost pool.)
I don't give two shits what you deem irrelevant. A quote isn't rendered mute because there is scrutiny on it. 😬If that was the case, every KotOR II quote in existence would be dismissed, lmfao.
I've provided ample evidence of various opinions ranking Kun as the better piece than Caedus.
You've provided actually no evidence to the contrary.
Except you literally rendered a quote mute because it had scrutiny in comparison to yours:
"For one, the first quote doesn't specify what Sith "the most powerful Sith Lords" is referring to. Thus, a broader and looser interpretation is possible. The latter quote, by virtue of the content of the source, specifically refers to Darth Sidious, Darth Caedus, and Darth Revan exclusively. "
You pointed out holes in one quote to deem yours superior, and are now suggesting holes in your quote do not deem it fallible? You're slipping, my dear.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
http://www.pojo.com/starwarsminis/motd/2006/Jul/07.shtmlHere's a website for fans of the game. Obviously not canonical, but I'm inclined to take their belief on which characters are strong in the game and which are weak over yours, Selenial. They state how Exar Kun's powers are likely the greatest in the game.
http://www.pojo.com/starwarsminis/motd/2008/June/13.shtml
Here's their review of Caedus. They considered Kun significantly better.
