Orion (grounded) vs Wolverine/Sabertooth/Spiderman

Judging from the scans Galan posted, and the speed feats CDTM quoted, it sounds like "grounded" Orion isn't a match for Superman in speed. In fact, judging by those feats, he'd have his hands full with any two of this team, let alone all three. While he certainly has impressive durability, Wolverine and Sabretooth have the perfect weapons to bypass it, and Spider-man is the ideal guy to temporarily immobilize/slow him down for them. Taking into account Wolverine's experience working as a team with both of these guys, Spider-man's ability to stay out of danger, and Wolverine and Sabretooth's ability to recover from any early mistakes, I say the team takes the majority here.

Orion oneshots all three. C'mon, this is Dog of War we are talking about.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Orion oneshots all three. C'mon, this is Dog of War we are talking about.

Fully equipped? Yeah, he stomps. Stripped like this? That's giving these guys too little respect.

Originally posted by Ize19
Fully equipped? Yeah, he stomps. Stripped like this? That's giving these guys too little respect.

If you disagree, then which character do you feel Orion can't one shot?

Originally posted by h1a8
He can literally one shot each character.

If you disagree, then which character do you feel Orion can't one shot?

Either Sabes or Wolverine can take at least a couple of shots, though a blitz or a blindside will put both down, and Spidey can avoid him, play the long distance annoyance, and create chances for his teammates.

Wwh, trying to give wolverine brain damage, couldn't one shot him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wwh, trying to give wolverine brain damage, couldn't one shot him.

Yes but only because of PIS/CIS/WIS.

I think the team takes this. Logan might hate Creed but they know each other's strong points and have worked together before and Logan and Spidey have a long history of team ups. Parker, his webs, and his banter can make for a sufficient distraction while Creed and Logan go to work.

It's also kind of suprising to see some people in this thread act like Logan and Creed haven't taken hits from bricks and other characters of similar strength and keep going. Logan alone has what, like ten times that he's evenly fought the hulk without getting oneshotted?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Yes but only because of PIS/CIS/WIS. [/B]

It's an established part of his character, and is consistent with how Marvel views the character. Ragnarok couldn't one-shot him, Thor couldn't, Skarr couldn't, Wonderman couldn't. At some point you have to stop sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "PIS! PIS!" and accept that he's not at the same power level as his 1974 debut fight with the Hulk.

Yes. I will agree that FAN WANKERY is a VERY Large part of Little Jimmy's character. It also means over using the HF lets his writers be VERY lazy when writing his stories.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Yes. I will agree that FAN WANKERY is a VERY Large part of Little Jimmy's character. It also means over using the HF lets his writers be VERY lazy when writing his stories. [/B]

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Yes. I will agree that FAN WANKERY is a VERY Large part of Little Jimmy's character. It also means over using the HF lets his writers be VERY lazy when writing his stories. [/B]

Which has... what to do with his capabilities? This thread isn't "Orion vs Wolverine, Sabertooth, and Spider-Man, which side is better written?". Not that I agree with you, of course, it's just an irrelevant insult meant to distract from the fact that your dismissal of his feat as PIS is in no way connected to reality.

Originally posted by Ize19
Fully equipped? Yeah, he stomps. Stripped like this? That's giving these guys too little respect.

So, do you think Superman loses in the same scenario?

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, do you think Superman loses in the same scenario?

Superman is much faster than a stripped Orion, with a much wider range of abilities. Strictly melee, and within their speed range? Yeah, he'd lose that.

Originally posted by Ize19
Superman is much faster than a stripped Orion, with a much wider range of abilities. Strictly melee, and within their speed range? Yeah, he'd lose that.

FILTHY LIES!!!

Originally posted by Ize19
Fully equipped? Yeah, he stomps. Stripped like this? That's giving these guys too little respect.

This is not Spider-Man we are talking about.

Originally posted by Ize19
Superman is much faster than a stripped Orion, with a much wider range of abilities. Strictly melee, and within their speed range? Yeah, he'd lose that.

Create a Superman vs these three thread and see how you will get ripped apart.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Uh, what? No, he wouldn't.

This is not Spider-Man we are talking about.

😂

Create a Superman vs these three thread and see how you will get ripped apart.

I saw how that would go down with the Thor vs Gorgon and Omega Red fight. Still feel we won, seeing how Rage "accepted" my battlezone challenge, then quietly dropped it when we tried to set it up in pms.

Originally posted by Ize19
Which has... what to do with his capabilities? This thread isn't "Orion vs Wolverine, Sabertooth, and Spider-Man, which side is better written?". Not that I agree with you, of course, it's just an irrelevant insult meant to distract from the fact that your dismissal of his feat as PIS is in no way connected to reality.

Originally posted by Ize19
I saw how that would go down with the Thor vs Gorgon and Omega Red fight. Still feel we won, seeing how Rage "accepted" my battlezone challenge, then quietly dropped it when we tried to set it up in pms.

Anyway, Orion punches Wolverine and drives him through Earth like a tent peg and then brutalizes creed and Parker.

Originally posted by abhilegend
We are not talking about puny Thor and puny thorbags like rage here. Superman is another beast altogether and I'm not rage.

Anyway, Orion punches Wolverine and drives him through Earth like a tent peg and then brutalizes creed and Parker.

I'm not sure what it is about bricks and speedsters that makes so many comic book fans so emotional. The very idea that somebody who's weaker/slower than their opponent could actually have the toolset to achieve victory stirs up this rage...

Then while Orion is still trying to hit Spider-man, Sabretooth claws Wolverine out, and they use hit and run tactics to chip away at him until he slows down enough for one of them to put the finisher through his brain.