Terrorist attack in Sweden kills 3 people

Started by Patient_Leech9 pages
Originally posted by Surtur
I'd rather have people who think Jesus is going to come take them to heaven as opposed to people who think they can get to heaven by exploding themselves and a bunch of other people.

I agree. But the potential is there.

Wacky beliefs are still wacky beliefs. The consequences may be different, but that doesn't make one more true than the other. They're both bullshit and both have consequences.

Originally posted by Bentley
They have more sheer power. Look at their respective airforces and the casualties caused by Western forces by accident.

Of course, for that you'd need to categorically say that the US or Russia are fully christian, which isn't really the case. Christianity doesn't aim to become a state religion at their funtamentals unlike Islam does.

So this is more not based on anything they have done recently, but what they might potentially do. Which is a valid, but I'm still more concerned about the religion that is actively engaging in a multitude of terror attacks, not to mention other atrocities.

Given the power they wield we should all be glad that Christianity at least went through some changes.

LOL the notion that all religions are just as bad becuz there's the "potential" for terrorism based on "wacky beliefs" is an absurd argument. Any ideology can lead to extremist violence. After Islam the second greatest number of terror attacks can be attributed to communist extremists, and communism is not a religious ideology.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
LOL the notion that all religions are just as bad becuz there's the "potential" for terrorism based on "wacky beliefs" is an absurd argument. Any ideology can lead to extremist violence. After Islam the second greatest number of terror attacks can be attributed to communist extremists, and communism is not a religious ideology.

Obviously Islam extemists are a more urgent matter.

My only annoyance is that no one seems to want to acknowledge the danger of Christianity. We are so violently against Islam, but it's a little like the pot calling the kettle black. And I'll have you remember that the history of Christianity was steeped in violence, mayhem, and murder all because of "beliefs" assumed true. Yes we have more "moderates" now, but there are still large percentages of the population that is "sure" that Jesus is going to come back.

Here is an interesting hypothetical: So we recently had the radical Islamists bombing a church. My question is if that had not happened and what actually did happen was that some Christians went and bombed a mosque and killed people....which of those stories would get more attention from the mainstream media?

Originally posted by Surtur
Meanwhile the Christians aren't the ones currently committing a majority of terrorist attacks. They aren't mutilating the genitals of females, beheading them for leaving the house without a man, tossing gays off buildings, etc. So why are modern day Christians just as scary?
Christians do mutilate female genitals in some countries where homosexuality is also punishable by death. So that is not strictly true. mmm

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Christians do mutilate female genitals in some countries where homosexuality is also punishable by death. So that is not strictly true. mmm

Right, so the Christians merely aren't committing as much female genital mutilation, okie dokie. Islam still remains shittier.

Mmm, the argument member Patient-Leech appears to be making Surt is that Christianity is "potentially just as scary as Islam" - in which respect pally, who is doing bad things more is not in question, merely their capacity to do bad things in and of itself.

Try to keep up. 😉

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Mmm, the argument member [b]Patient-Leech appears to be making Surt is that Christianity is "potentially just as scary as Islam" - in which respect pally, who is doing bad things more is not in question, merely their capacity to do bad things in and of itself.

Try to keep up. 😉 [/B]

I know what his point was, and my point was that potentially being scary doesn't compare with Islam, where it's more than the potential.

I literally even addressed what this was about a few posts up. So perhaps you need to keep up, yeah?

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Obviously Islam extemists are a more urgent matter.

My only annoyance is that no one seems to want to acknowledge the danger of Christianity. We are so violently against Islam, but it's a little like the pot calling the kettle black. And I'll have you remember that the history of Christianity was steeped in violence, mayhem, and murder all because of "beliefs" assumed true. Yes we have more "moderates" now, but there are still large percentages of the population that is "sure" that Jesus is going to come back.


I could just as easily counter that some New Atheist who believes that the world would be better off without religion would rise to power and kill religious people, or send any religious person to some "reeducation camp," either of which would be disgusting acts of oppression with the purpose of stamping out any religious belief. Sure that might sound far-fetched, but so does the notion of modern Christianity progressing to the point of similar extremism to modern day Muslims.

Virtually any ideology can be taken to extremism, as proven by communism.

Originally posted by Surtur
I know what his point was, and my point was that potentially being scary doesn't compare with Islam, where it's more than the potential.

I literally even addressed what this was about a few posts up. So perhaps you need to keep up, yeah?

Your point was to reframe the original posters argument in a way in which you could deflect and dismiss it. Yeah. I'm fully up to speed with all your usual antics. 🙁

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Your point was to reframe the original posters argument in a way in which you could deflect and dismiss it. Yeah. I'm fully up to speed with all your usual antics. 🙁

I acknowledged it and said it doesn't make them currently as bad as Islam.

So, do keep up.

Which was not the argument. mmm

I'm feeling like you're lagging behind here Surt.

Originally posted by Surtur
I acknowledged it and said it doesn't make them currently as bad as Islam.

So, do keep up.

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Which was not the argument. mmm

I'm feeling like you're lagging behind here Surt.

The argument was they have the potential to be scary, nobody disagreed. Did you have anymore questions?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The lesser of two evils is still evil.

Okay? And the greater of two evils is still..the greater evil.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
After Islam the second greatest number of terror attacks can be attributed to communist extremists, and communism is not a religious ideology.
Not if you own up to all the dark ages our ancestors went through because of Christianity.

Plus the Crusades!!

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Not if you own up to all the dark ages our ancestors went through because of Christianity.

What do I have to own up for? I haven't done shit.

Originally posted by Surtur
The argument was they have the potential to be scary, nobody disagreed. Did you have anymore questions?
I haven't asked any questions Surt. 🙁

But sure, do you think the fact that Christians are capable of being just as bad as Muslims in several capacities has brought you closer to grasping the root cause of the problem?