Originally posted by Darth Thor
You're on 😉I'll win this time!
You might. I just don't see Thor doing over 140 OW. JL will have better legs, because of the time slot. Thor will likely have better legs, but even most people don't see it doing over 340 domestic.
Plus, Suicide Squad had a lot more Youtube views than BVS, and was better received, yet it didn't do as much as BVS. So, view count isn't the be all end all.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I know YouTube views are not the all and end all.But like I said I already suspected Ragnarok would make more. The YouTube hits just makes me more confident of that.
You're not giving any real reasons other than YouTube views. So,,is Thor going to make more than Star Wars? It did get more views than that.
Originally posted by Zack M
You're not giving any real reasons other than YouTube views. So,,is Thor going to make more than Star Wars? It did get more views than that.
Well all you had the do is ask for reasons lol
But I have explained in the past about JL.. That BvS already had Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman fighting together, so what's so special about JL when none of the other characters have been built up?
I also said from Day 1 that having Zack Snyder directing is a really really dumb move by WB.
Thor:Ragnarok on the other hand is the next Marvel event film. They've gone original with the director, and Thor + Loki are really popular, and we haven't seen their story continue in a long time. Then Adding Hulk and Dr. Strange its going to be a huge event IMO.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well all you had the do is ask for reasons lolBut I have explained in the past about JL.. That BvS already had Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman fighting together, so what's so special about JL when none of the other characters have been built up?
I also said from Day 1 that having Zack Snyder directing is a really really dumb move by WB.
Thor:Ragnarok on the other hand is the next Marvel event film. They've gone original with the director, and Thor + Loki are really popular, and we haven't seen their story continue in a long time. Then Adding Hulk and Dr. Strange its going to be a huge event IMO.
JL also has a different tone than BVS, so you can't compare the two. Like I said before, legs for Justice League will be better, because of time slot.
Dumb move? Snyder has a solid fan base. Doesn't matter if you think its a dumb move, it will make bank.
The last Thor movie only made 600 million something at the box office. I don't see Thor Ragnarok making 500 plus million more. 800 million max, IMO.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
But I have explained in the past about JL.. That BvS already had Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman fighting together, so what's so special about JL when none of the other characters have been built up?Thor:Ragnarok on the other hand is the next Marvel event film. They've gone original with the director, and Thor + Loki are really popular, and we haven't seen their story continue in a long time. Then Adding Hulk and Dr. Strange its going to be a huge event IMO.
I hope both films are good. But just to counter your reasoning, Hulk and Thor already fought in the first Avengers movie, so what's so special about a rematch? And Thor dealings with Loki trickery again for the third time? Argument can be made that it just a wash, rinse, repeat story with a few cameos and some nice special effects. Again using your line of reasoning that its not special if the same characters are on the big screen together in more the one movie.
Originally posted by Zack M
JL also has a different tone than BVS, so you can't compare the two. Like I said before, legs for Justice League will be better, because of time slot.Dumb move? Snyder has a solid fan base. Doesn't matter if you think its a dumb move, it will make bank.
The last Thor movie only made 600 million something at the box office. I don't see Thor Ragnarok making 500 plus million more. 800 million max, IMO.
Not sure what difference you think the tone supposed to make.
Where was Snyder's fan base when BvS couldnt even double its OW in its entire run?
How much more money did Civil War make when compared to its predecessor Winter Soldier? Adding in other popular heroes adds to the box office.
Originally posted by Supermutant
I hope both films are good. But just to counter your reasoning, Hulk and Thor already fought in the first Avengers movie, so what's so special about a rematch? And Thor dealings with Loki trickery again for the third time? Argument can be made that it just a wash, rinse, repeat story with a few cameos and some nice special effects. Again using your line of reasoning that its not special if the same characters are on the big screen together in more the one movie.
Because Thor:Ragnarok is an event movie that's been properly built up. However If BvS was well received then my argument wouldn't hold up as well.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Not sure what difference you think the tone supposed to make.Where was Snyder's fan base when BvS couldnt even double its OW in its entire run?
How much more money did Civil War make when compared to its predecessor Winter Soldier? Adding in other popular heroes adds to the box office.
Because you can't use past movies as a reason on how a future one will do. JL isn't BVS. It will make MORE than BVS. Honestly, I'd be surprised if it did less.
You just said it; adding more heroes = more money. 😂
justice league ,might not make a ton of money despite what golgo thinks given that wonder woman might not either... especially wonder woman vastly underperforms like it quite possibly will..
MARK THESE WORDS. Wonder Woman could very well tank very very badly in its second week going up against tom cruise.
Originally posted by Zack M
Because you can't use past movies as a reason on how a future one will do. JL isn't BVS. It will make MORE than BVS. Honestly, I'd be surprised if it did less.You just said it; adding more heroes = more money. 😂
I said "other Popular heroes". Aquaman and Flash are not popular within the mainstream audiences yet.
Age of Ultron added "more heroes", but that didn't add anything to the box office. What will help JL though is the WW solo film. Because clearly just "adding her" to BvS without her own film did nothing for BvS's box office.
If JL's a better film than BvS, then it should gross more. Doesn't mean it will make as much as Thor 😉
Anyway no point in arguing. We'll see which does better come November.