I did respond to your PM. but since you want to air it here. you claim that you based your question on my exact wording. Ok, here is your question.
"In your mind, why do you think merely the act of holding the bottle automatically means it wasn't in self defense?"
So please provide the post where I state that merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense.
Originally posted by Silent MasterSo please provide the post where I state that merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Guy should be in jail for hitting her, but let's be honest. her having that bottle likely had very little to do with self-defense.
oh i get it. you didn't say that it was DEFINITE that she was assaulting people with it. just likely. wow you're such a good troll.
Ok, sure. Lets transcribe it all.
of my PM reply but edited with all the quotes
[quote]You made the assumption that I based my opinion solely on the fact that she was holding a bottle. The way you worded your question clearly shows this.
You do realize what that was in response to right?
Originally posted by Silent Master
[B]Guy should be in jail for hitting her, but let's be honest. her having that bottle likely had very little to do with self-defense.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm aware that we don't know for certain, I even basically say that in the post you quoted.However IMO, it's far more likely that the bottle wasn't meant for self-defense.
Originally posted by Silent Master
It's also entirely conceivable and reasonable to assume that she picked it up with the intention of throwing or using it in an offensive manner.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Ask yourself that question, as you're the one that had a problem with me stating that the bottle was likely not meant for self-defense.
Now, I am pretty sure my eyes are not deceiving me here. You did say that you felt the bottle in her hand was likely not meant for self defense. My question is why do you come to that conclusion? as in why assume that it was not for self defense? as in why assume the worst in people? Like you are doing with me, right here, right now, and being an utter tool while doing it?
There was no reason for any of this beyond you avoiding the question for some reason. I do not understand this SM, you've never been like this with me before, and the question I asked doesn't make any assumptions, because you already stated what your belief was. I'm not a mind reader, so the only question I ever had was why you believe what you do....
What do you want me to say to what you ACTUALLY said?[/b][/quote]
Now, my original posing of the question asked why you THINK, in your mind, that the bottle was not meant for defense, because that is EXACTLY what you said. You got defensive and indeed played the victim, and thrashed around. Well, now the quotes are all together, so everyone can judge for themselves.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
oh i get it. you didn't say that it was DEFINITE that she was assaulting people with it. just likely. wow you're such a good troll.[img]http://i.imgur.com/SFbhg7N.jpg[/img
I didn't say it was likely that she was assaulting people with it, you really need to pay attention.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ok, sure. Lets transcribe it all.You do realize what that was in response to right?
Now, I am pretty sure my eyes are not deceiving me here. You did say that you felt the bottle in her hand was likely not meant for self defense. My question is why do you come to that conclusion? as in why assume that it was not for self defense? as in why assume the worst in people? Like you are doing with me, right here, right now, and being an utter tool while doing it?
There was no reason for any of this beyond you avoiding the question for some reason. I do not understand this SM, you've never been like this with me before, and the question I asked doesn't make any assumptions, because you already stated what your belief was. I'm not a mind reader, so the only question I ever had was why you believe what you do....
What do you want me to say to what you ACTUALLY said?
Now, my original posing of the question asked why you THINK, in your mind, that the bottle was not meant for defense, because that is EXACTLY what you said. You got defensive and indeed played the victim, and thrashed around. Well, now the quotes are all together, so everyone can judge for themselves.
No, your question was why did I think merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Hmm, that is a harder question to answer. Protests in general is the public outcry of people wanting to be heard, and they are willing to try and stamp out other opinions while they do it. Union protests are nothing but this tactic. But actual facism is a lit more.... permanent. The most extreme example was indeed Nazi Germany, whose state sponsored religious beliefs (And yes, that Arianism was Himmler's attempt at crafting a religious facade) demanded the extinction of jews, and the enslavement of any people not white skinned blonde haired and blue eyed, irrespective of anyones opinion on the matter.That being said, to bring that full circle, even I am well aware that not every German was a Nazi. Hell, not even every member of the Wehrmacht agreed with the views of the SS, and were merely doing their duty as soldiers of Germany. Hell, soldiers are only soldiers in a relative sense. Political views change with whomever is in control of their nation. The ruling party shapes the course of that country for however long they hold power. The whole reason the Cold War rose, and then fell was for this exact reason as well.
I have no problem with protests, I just have a problem with the non-peaceful ones. The ones who get violent or block roads and block entrances to places they do not agree with.
I don't think it's fascism in the same way some dictator with true power of a country would have. But the whole "we are going to block you from attending an event because we disagree with you" sounds like a fascist tactic.
As for the nazi stuff, yeah not all were bad, but you have to keep in mind there were a lot of people the nazis just plain forced to join them. With Antifa it doesn't seem like they are strong arming anyone into joining, they do not have that power to really enforce that, while the nazis could toss you in jail or go after your family if you refused to join. Or they would offer incredibly lucrative offers to people, like scientists. This is how they got Wernher von Braun to join.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't say it was likely that she was assaulting people with it, you really need to pay attention.
Originally posted by Silent Master
It's also entirely conceivable and reasonable to assume that she picked it up with the intention of throwing or using it in an offensive manner.
*honk honk* clown
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, your question was why did I think merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense.
You said it likely was not self defense! It's THERE, RIGHT THERE in the quotes man! Lying while the truth is right bloody there in front of everyones eyes is just... Wow... That is a magical kind of special...
I'm not doing the quotes repeatedly because that would be me reciprocating this f*cking magically retarded circus, but if you want to play the fool, I won't stop you.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, your question was why did I think merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense.
You said it likely was not self defense! It's THERE, RIGHT THERE in the quotes man! Lying while the truth is right bloody there in front of everyones eyes is just... Wow... That is a magical kind of special...
I'm not doing the quotes repeatedly because that would be me reciprocating this ****ing magicallly retarded circus, but if you want to play the fool, I won't stop you. [/B][/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
accurate
*both reported for making hateful comments against handicapable Circus Preformers*
You Hatefilled Intolerant Creeps make me SICK!
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, your question was why did I think merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense.
You said it likely was not self defense! It's THERE, RIGHT THERE in the quotes man! Lying while the truth is right bloody there in front of everyones eyes is just... Wow... That is a magical kind of special...I'm not doing the quotes repeatedly because that would be me reciprocating this ****ing magicallly retarded circus, but if you want to play the fool, I won't stop you.
Again, saying that I don't think she had the bottle for self-defense isn't the same as saying that in general merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense and your question was asking why I believed merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, saying that I don't she had the bottle for self-defense isn't the same as saying that in general merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense and your question was asking why I believed merely holding a bottle means it wasn't self-defense.
No, listen to my words. I said why HER holding the bottle was not self defense. Since we are talking about her in specific, and not the general act of holding a bottle. If that was your single hangup, then you blew this entire thing so far out of proportion, and all because you misread and then misinterpreted a single damn word in a sentence.
I mean, for christ sake man, can you not extrapolate the actual point of my meaning? It wasn't a difficult question, but I get the feeling your skills at deduction are either really badly lacking, or you deliberately tried to play semantics with me in order to avoid answering anything. But fine... f*ck the question, f*ck my point, and you can go f*ck yourself with rusty razors for being a rude, miserable kunt.
We are done here.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Was this a Booze Bottle? Was there still Booze in the bottle?Cause I know for a fact that I wouldn't use it as a weapon if it still had booze in it.
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The very fact that I need to specify precisely the very bottle that has been talked about for literally pages and pages worries me greatly. SM knows which bottle, and which situation I am speaking about, but he is now trying to say that I said his opinion encompasses every bottle in every hand all over the world.... THAT is the result of asenine reasoning buttf*cking troll logic, and this circus is the bastard poop baby that results.
Or to put it another way. Welcome to SM's great show of drinking the Kool-Aid out of a clown shoe.