Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid
Uh-huh
Korvac would undoubtedly win against Darkseid in a raw power battle (at least Pre-FP DS, N52 has been inconsistent). Darkseid's only option is bfr'ing him out of reality, which has been shown to be effective against Korvac. But since CIS is off, i don't think Korvac would give him the chance.
Originally posted by operator616
Korvac would undoubtedly win against Darkseid in a raw power battle (at least Pre-FP DS, N52 has been inconsistent). Darkseid's only option is bfr'ing him out of reality, which has been shown to be effective against Korvac. But since CIS is off, i don't think Korvac would give him the chance.
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New 52 would straight up beat him. No if or buts.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think so. Darkseid is no more inconsistent than Korvac.New 52 would straight up beat him. No if or buts.
Being pushed back by a rookie JLA and then going toe-to-toe with AM is pretty inconsistent. I don't recall Korvac having such ups and downs.
But admittedly, i was more thinking about pre-FP than N52.
Originally posted by operator616
Being pushed back by a rookie JLA and then going toe-to-toe with AM is pretty inconsistent. I don't recall Korvac having such ups and downs.But admittedly, i was more thinking about pre-FP than N52.
He wasn't going to kill them. All they did was push him back. Beats getting killed by Hazmat.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think so. Darkseid is no more inconsistent than Korvac.
Even a noob Krugarr oneshotted him by trapping him. And even Hazmat oneshot killed him with anti matter.https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3313878-16.jpg
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New 52 would straight up beat him. No if or buts.
Yeah, like i said, krugarr basically manished korvac out of reality which is his weakness. Also krugarr later on managed to defeat a hugely amped dormammu. Granted, not on his own, he was channeling the powers of dr strange and talon iirc. But still, pretty impressive.
That's an alternate hazmat who has anti matter powers.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He oneshotted the whole JLA in his very first appearance.He wasn't going to kill them. All they did was push him back. Beats getting killed by Hazmat.
He was having problems with the JL across the arc. But fair enough if we're arguing N52. Like i said, i was mostly thinking pre-FP.
Originally posted by Zack M
Fighting AM is a low feat?
No, quite the opposite, it's a high.
Originally posted by operator616
[B]Yeah, like i said, krugarr basically manished korvac out of reality which is his weakness.
What are you talking about?
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It was simply a dimension where his powers didn't work.
It's not his weakness.
Also krugarr later on managed to defeat a hugely amped dormammu. Granted, not on his own, he was channeling the powers of dr strange and talon iirc. But still, pretty impressive.
And this is relevant how?
That's an alternate hazmat who has anti matter powers.
So? Is Hazmat now more powerful than Darkseid? Or justice league?
He was having problems with the JL across the arc. But fair enough if we're arguing N52. Like i said, i was mostly thinking pre-FP.
No, he wasn't.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What are you talking about?https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3313757-27.jpg
It was simply a dimension where his powers didn't work.
It's a dimension beyond physical space. Meaning beyond reality.
Also, Giraud basically did the same thing to him.
That's why i got the impression that's it's his weakness. Maybe it isn't his weakness per se, but it's a viable option to win against Korvac, which is why i mentioned Darkseid potentially exploiting that.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And this is relevant how?
Thought it worth mentioning in regards to his power level considering he's the one who imprisoned him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So? Is Hazmat now more powerful than Darkseid? Or justice league?
More powerful than Anti monitor, imo. Prove me wrong.
Originally posted by abhilegendNo, he wasn't.
It's been a while but im 100% sure he was. Im pretty sure you're aware of the instance so im not going to bother and post scans.
Originally posted by operator616
It's a dimension beyond physical space. Meaning beyond reality.Also, Giraud basically did the same thing to him.
That's not what it was.
That's why i got the impression that's it's his weakness. Maybe it isn't his weakness per se, but it's a viable option to win against Korvac, which is why i mentioned Darkseid potentially exploiting that.
It's not his weakness.
Thought it worth mentioning in regards to his power level considering he's the one who imprisoned him.
No it isn't. Krugarr wasn't even sorcerer supreme at that point where he imprisoned Korvac.
More powerful than Anti monitor, imo. Prove me wrong.
You're wrong. There you go.
It's been a while but im 100% sure he was. Im pretty sure you're aware of the instance so im not going to bother and post scans.
I'm hundred percent sure he wasn't. Oneshotting a whole team, then oneshotting it's biggest gun isn't struggling.
He isn't Thanos who gets his shit kicked in by any and all teams.
Man, outside that What If, I don't think Korvac has been that impressive. Don't get me wrong, he IS powerful but that alt reality version of him is an outlier that's for sure.
Regarding Korvac vs Kruggar : yes Kruggar was still an apprentice to Dr. Strange/Ancient One and didn't ascend till later when Dual Dormammu killed Dr. Strange/Ancient One and Kruggar took over the title.
Regarding Amalgamation Korvac vs Giraud Phoenix : it fought a hungry PF and was owned supposedly via BFR but what Giraud says after the fight makes you wonder what really happened, "My hunger is satiated.........for now". That must have been some "BFR". LOL
As to the thread, it's a close fight that could go either way pre DCNU Darkseid. Current Darkseid annihilates him though.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what it was. It's not his weakness.No it isn't. Krugarr wasn't even sorcerer supreme at that point where he imprisoned Korvac.
You're wrong. There you go.
I'm hundred percent sure he wasn't. Oneshotting a whole team, then oneshotting it's biggest gun isn't struggling.
He isn't Thanos who gets his shit kicked in by any and all teams.
Look at you and your one word arguments. My whole point is that it's a potential exploitable option because it's been demonstrated to be effective against Korvac. Im not sure why you're making such a big deal out of this.
OK? Just because he isn't SS doesn't mean he's not powerful. Strange didn't become SS for more than a decade. In fact, his pre-SS feats are just as impressive as his post-SS feats.
then prove me wrong.
He only "one-shotted" the team when he suddenly appeared ambushing them.
If that's not struggling i don't know what is. Also, my opinion on the matter is in regards to pre-FP DS.
Originally posted by operator616
http://imgur.com/a/qC2khIf that's not struggling i don't know what is. Also, my opinion on the matter is in regards to pre-FP DS.
That looks like DS being swarmed by the JLA. Seems like it was ineffectual to me. Even when he was stabbed in the eyes, not once did he yell out in pain, and he kept on fighting without missing a beat.
Originally posted by Faceless808
That looks like DS being swarmed by the JLA. Seems like it was ineffectual to me. Even when he was stabbed in the eyes, not once did he yell out in pain, and he kept on fighting without missing a beat.
There were more scans that didn't upload, they pushed him back into the boomtube. And they clearly give him pause throughout the fight. Also that's a JLA who were at the beginning of their careers.