Vitiate is the most powerful Dark Sider ever.

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Vitiate is the most powerful Dark Sider ever.

To understand why this is a fact, we must analyse what he achieved on Nathema:

The ritual lasted ten days. Lord Vitiate orchestrated the sorcery and the planet Medriaas was consumed by the largest dark side nexus the galaxy would ever see.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia

The effects of this nexus are unprecedented, literally killing every living thing on the planet, even the Force, absorbing all:

When the ritual ended, Lord Vitiate emerged as the only survivor. The pain, energy, and suffering of every living entity on the planet fueled his power and would prolong his life for centuries. The lifeless planet of Medriaas became a void in the Force and was erased from history.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia

Vitiate himself absorbed said nexus and achieved its unprecedented power:

The Emperor is one thousand years old. In a dark side ritual, he drained the life of his home planet, to achieve immortality.
- Star Wars: The Essential Reader's Companion

Infact, a thousand years after the ritual, its effects are still existent within Vitiate himself:

Staring into the hollow darkness of the Emperor’s gaze, Scourge’s mind flashed back to Nathema, and he shivered at the memory.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan[/I]

Scourge cried out in anguish as the Emperor’s mind brushed against his, then he collapsed to the floor, shaking like a child. The touch lasted less than a second, but in that time he witnessed indescribable horrors that dwarfed anything the dark side could conjure even in his worst nightmares. And beneath the formless terrors lurked the unbearable Void, the pure emptiness of total annihilation.

It was over as quickly as it had begun, the awful vision retreating into his subconscious like a repressed memory as Scourge picked himself up off the floor.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan

Vitiate as a product of the Ritual of Nathema became more powerful than any nexus ever seen. Another dark side nexus, is the vaunted Darth Sidious:

Eager to meet his captor, Luke learned that the dark side nexus he had sensed was none other than the cloned reincarnation of Emperor Palpatine himself.
- The New Essential Chronology

Darth Sidious is a very powerful dark side nexus, so much so that his energies tore the fabric of space:

The key to Luke's turning is the moment when he and Leia realize the Emperor is no longer defined by his physical form, but has become a chaotic nexus of dark energies that swell and burst open the fabric of space, tearing apart everything in the vicinity, human and machine.
- Dark Empire Endnotes

As impressive as this may be, Vitiate himself has gained such energies that they leave voids in life and the force, infact he continuously feeds more and more after the Ritual:

The Sith Empire's exile dragged on for centuries. While the military, navy, and Sith grew strong, the Emperor amassed unfathomable power and plotted a vengeful war against the Republic. He ruled from the privacy of his chambers in the Citadel, his life extended to virtual immortality by Sith sorcery.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia

Sources indicate that he is always feeding and draining others:

The temple became a nexus of dark side energy as the Emperor performed rituals within, drawing strength and knowledge from his captives.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
Servants of the Hand share their Master's longevity, living untouched by age for centuries under his command. In return, the Emperor draws on his servant's strength in the Force and body to feed his ever-increasing power, leaving the servants withered and frail.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
REVAN COULD FEEL THE EMPEROR FEEDING ON HIM, drawing on his power to sate his endless hunger.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan

Vitiate eventually achieved so much power that he didn't even require a physical form to reduce Ziost to the same fate as Nathema:

Global cataclysms are not unheard of. Whole worlds teeming with life have been rendered lifeless by meteorites, broken apart by instability in the planet's own core--even atomized by the destructive force of a supernova. But the eerie calm of a world stripped of life yet left otherwise intact is another matter altogether. Whispered rumors have persisted of planets snuffed out through intricate Sith rituals or by way of deadly, arcane machines--such as the device Revan sought to employ on Yavin 4--but Ziost represents a clear display of the corrosive power of the dark side of the Force taken to its extreme.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Rise of the Sith Emperor: Codex Entry "Death of a World"

He is infact repeatedly stated to be a literal embodiment of the dark side of the Force, with immeasurable power:

Enduring and merciless and quite possibly unkillable, Monoliths plainly illustrate the immeasurable power of their creator and are best avoided at all costs.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Rise of the Emperor Codex Entry "Monoliths"
The Emperor is more than a man - he is the living embodiment of the dark side.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
He was a living embodiment of the dark side of the Force who delighted in destroying the minds and spirits of those Jedi who came too close to him.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia
A being of unfathomable power and insatiable appetite, he transcended death multiple times, shedding his physical shells as they were discovered, defeated, and destroyed... only to return in another form.
- Star Wars: The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne: Codex Entry "The Fall of Valkorion"

In conclusion:

Tenebrae was the literal manifestation of the most powerful dark side nexus ever seen. A manifestation powerful enough to reduce planets to lifeless voids in the Force as he became ever more powerful, no matter his form. He was quite literally the living embodiment of the dark side of the Force, even more destructive than the likes of Malachor V or the legendary Darth Nihilus.

The typical reply of somebody with absolutely nothing to say.

Au contraire.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t640242.html

Originally posted by AncientPower
Vitiate is the most powerful Dark Sider ever, As of stwor

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Nope he's a literal dark side embodiment, try harder.

Originally posted by Geistalt
Au contraire.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t640242.html

If only Tenebrae was a Sith in anything but blood.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Nope he's a literal dark side embodiment, try harder.

Dooku is the "literal" center of the universe, try harder.

That's allegory from a novel full of similar quotes, I'd know because I've got four copies. These quotes aren't just fluffy comments, they are serious statements about his power repeated across all SWTOR media. The beautiful irony of SWTOR writers being so terrible is that it actually provides Vitiate a saving grace, they actually created a character who was the living embodiment of the dark side. As moronic as that is.

Originally posted by AncientPower
If only Tenebrae was a Sith in anything but blood.

if only "valk is a sith entitiy" was in past tense

If only you could read with any sense or comprehension

Originally posted by AncientPower
That's allegory from a novel full of similar quotes, I'd know because I've got four copies. These quotes aren't just fluffy comments, they are serious statements about his power repeated across all SWTOR media. The beautiful irony of SWTOR writers being so terrible is that it actually provides Vitiate a saving grace, they actually created a character who was the living embodiment of the dark side. As moronic as that is.

Regarding quotes which actually call valk an embodiment, that's all allegory across a single source with similar quotes.

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Don't pretend you own the Encyclopedia or have ever actually played SWTOR. 😂

Originally posted by AncientPower
Don't pretend you own the Encyclopedia or have ever actually played SWTOR. 😂

I have played stwor.

And I don't need to the encyclopedia, literally all the quotes you posted which called valk an embodiment of the darkside were from one source.

And me not having an encyclopedia doesn't stop me from being able to identify hyperbole, a skill you clearly lack

It isn't hyperbole, and nor are these restricted to a single source, this is repeated in the Codex Entries, the novel and even in descriptions of videos.

If it were hyperbole, said statements wouldn't be bang in the center of official character descriptions. It's an Encyclopedia, get your head around that, it is stated to be a 100% factual source of official information right at the start.

Of the quotes you've provided, only two say anything about an embodiment and both come from the same source

reading is hard.

Regardless of whether vitiate is an embodiment or not, sidious is still better:

Originally posted by Geistalt
Au contraire.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t640242.html

Are you that dense? Oh wait, it's you. The emphasis is not on the word embodiment.

I don't care if you want to blatantly ignore canonical statements in favor of a single laughably deliberate misinterpretation of a singular description in a single codex entry from a source predating the sources stating he isn't a Sith.

You can live in your fantasy of being covered in Sidious c*m all you like. Fact is your argument is as poor and irrelevant as it ever was.

P.S. You can't become more than an embodiment of something, so at the very best you can argue Sidious was one too.

Originally posted by AncientPower

I don't care if you want to blatantly ignore canonical statements in favor of a single laughably deliberate misinterpretation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2GN_jM1DuI

There's no canonical statement saying valk isn't a sith, just subjective statements from valk who is trying to be deceptive and off course non-canonical misinterpretations nad logical gymnastics.

Here are actual canonical statements, you should note more than one refer to all darksiders, not just sith lords:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t640242.html

Also, no. You can become a stronger embodiment of something, english is hard

Oh give it a rest lmao.

Vitiate>Palpatine should be obvious tbh