Wolverine without claws vs Captain America (w/shield)

How does this go?

In the city.
Wolverine can't use his claws.

Wolverine still wins. Even without his claws, he's still an expert martial artist with an enhanced physicality, animal keen senses, unbreakable bones, and a healing factor. Cap makes him work for it, but Logan eventually wins.

Logan gives Steve a hematoma again... Cap whispers "Hail Hydra" before he bleeds out.

without claws? cap kicks his a$$. with claws this is nearly even.

Originally posted by leonidas
without claws? cap kicks his a$$. with claws this is nearly even.

Beating on him? Far stronger have failed at that.

Decapitation? Unbreakable spine.

Break his bones? Unbreakable bones.

Originally posted by leonidas
without claws? cap kicks his a$$.

Like he did in Origins...? Against weakened Logan, to boot?

Originally posted by leonidas
with claws this is nearly even.

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Logan is basically Cap, but with a battlefield-effective regen, super-senses, more exp and unbreakable skeletal structure.

Wolverine wins. Attack with the shield is the best(maybe only?) chance to Cap KO Logan(and is unlikely imo). Without idk how he can win.

Originally posted by deathslash
except for how cap has no way to put logan down.

Beating on him? Far stronger have failed at that.

Decapitation? Unbreakable spine.

Break his bones? Unbreakable bones.

of course he has a way to put him down. he doesn't have to kill him or anything else. he needs to ko him long enough for a forum win. i'll not bother to post the hundreds of times logan has been ko'd or the heavy hitters cap has taken down. if you don't think cap can ko him with his shield, well, this is why bi stay away from logan threads in general. besides, there is a thread for this already with thousands of posts arguing with and without claws. i'll agree to disagree, vehemently, with you and stilt on this one just so's it doesn't turn into a thread with all the same scans we've seen a million times.

Originally posted by leonidas
he needs to ko him long enough for a forum win.

Which he simply cannot do under his own power.

Even with Giant Man's help and dropping him from the plane, Logan was still conscious and immediately got up...

I see you're not going to change your mind, but... haven't you read their fights?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Which he simply cannot do under his own power.

Even with Giant Man's help and dropping him from the plane, Logan was still conscious and immediately got up...

I see you're not going to change your mind, but... haven't you read their fights?

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Here comes the excuses.

No claws, I see Steve hanging for a while, skills and shield are brutal. In the end though Logan will g+p the shit out of Steve.
Good fight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap koed him in EOTS.

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Here comes the excuses.

"Never been such a mess" - panel right before Cap's shield bash.

this is what i mean. there are several fights and all are pretty close. cap beat the hell out logan without his claws already, but his heart somehow wasn't in it. in the quinjet fight i'd say cap wasn't going for a kill, his heart wasn't really in it and he'd hurt logan pretty badly with just one shield strike. a couple would def put logan down. we've already seen that it can.

but like i said, i'm not going back and forth on this. the arguments have pretty much all been used up and the fights dissected as well as they can be. the differences of opinion are what make cap/logan one of the great vs threads. depending on your definition of great of course....

in enemy of the state cap knocked him out with a shield strike to the back of the head. now sure wolverine wasnt at his best because he was exhausted. as for his statement that he has never been in such a mess... come on... thats pure hyperbole. anyway, i think if captain america manages to bash wolverine in the pressure points with the shield, nerve strikes and hit him in the back of his head and throat or his jaw with full power, he can ko wolverine. remember their fight when captain america used pressure points on wolverines wrists and actually hurt him and made damage? that was with his fingers. utilizing his shield with his strength and anatomy knowledge, i think there shouldnt be much problem for cap to ko wolverine. with that being said, if cap doesnt have his shield and its only h2h, wolverine takes the majority and i dont believe cap would be able to knock him out without the shield.

Originally posted by leonidas
but his heart somehow wasn't in it

Can you blame him? He was serving f*cking Zemo. That's why he spared Bucky, actually.

Logan is not a nazi like Steve...

Originally posted by Dareangel
as for his statement that he has never been in such a mess... come on... thats pure hyperbole.

Yes, but the point is, he was significantly injured and had his hf taxed.

He took a blast from Rachel Phoenix and Cyclops...

You were the one arguing he could heal from the xeno acid x1000 --- so don't give me crap about Steve being able to KO him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"Never been such a mess" - panel right before Cap's shield bash.

Or dropped in lava.

Right, like I said anytime he is koed excuses come out. Otherwise it's just untaxable HF that can counter everything.

Nobody said you should take that statement literally. When a lv1 player finishes a group boss in a mmorpg game, you can't really say he would be capable of solo'ing him...

Cap doesn't have any help in this thread.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Nobody said you should take that statement literally. When a lv1 player finishes a group boss in a mmorpg game, you can't really say he would be capable of solo'ing him...

Cap doesn't have any help in this thread.

I've been informed that Wolverine instantly heals from anything that doesn't koes him because it liquifes his internal organs and they instantly heal up. So nothing Rachel or Cyclops did mattered to his health.

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I said he can't ko him under his own power. Which he didn't.