Originally posted by abhilegend
I've been informed that Wolverine instantly heals from anything that doesn't koes him because it liquifes his internal organs and they instantly heal up. So nothing Rachel or Cyclops did mattered to his health.
Again, his HF doesn't run on infinite energy. And he was clearly shown as far from anywhere close to fully recovered, still healing before Cap struck him.
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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Again, his HF doesn't run on infinite energy. And he was clearly shown as far from anywhere close to fully recovered, still healing before Cap struck him.Keep on trolling, just remember... Superman is neither super nor a man 👆
Cap koed Wolverine. Just like Daredevil.
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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes, but the point is, he was significantly injured and had his hf taxed.He took a blast from Rachel Phoenix and Cyclops...
You were the one arguing he could heal from the xeno acid x1000 --- so don't give me crap about Steve being able to KO him.
i never argued he wasnt hurt. just said the statement is hyperbole.
as for the acid, there is a difference between something like acid and fire which his healing factor can handle, and an imidiate nerve strike to the back of the head that shuts down the system. different forces of damage.
Logan's claws are definitely an advantage, but they aren't the determining factor most of the time. His healing factor has always been the biggest problem for his opponents. It's the reason he'll beat most other street MA's, even if certain ones put up a good fight.
In a city, Cap could go for some environmental shenanigans. Wolverine's enhanced senses would make most of that useless though. Wolverine should win the majority, although the fight might take awhile.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWNerve strikes that work are straight up PIS.
So you were just being Captain Obvious. Okay.Logan's HF allowed him to no-sell nerve strikes from Echo, who was mimicking Daredevil's and Bullseye's moves...
Rulk punching the face off of Logan, and Logan surviving, is absolutely normal. Nothing special about that feat at all.
Haters aren't going to like this, but that's very bloody close to Logans average. There are issues where his average isn't going to help the story, and that's fine.
That's why Logan has an average.
Captain America will always give Wolverine a great fight. The two are about the same strength, about the same speed, close to the same skill, with Wolverine having the edge in all three. Add to that, Cap's shield is a great counter to Wolverine's claws, and it's a very entertaining match. Of course, in this match, Wolverine doesn't have his claws, so I only see him winning... 10/10.
CA gives him a great fight every time, but Wolverine isn't a punching bag here, Cap won't ever be able to amass enough damage to tax his healing factor before Wolverine puts him down, claws or no claws.
Originally posted by Ize19
Captain America will always give Wolverine a great fight. The two are about the same strength, about the same speed, close to the same skill, with Wolverine having the edge in all three. Add to that, Cap's shield is a great counter to Wolverine's claws, and it's a very entertaining match. Of course, in this match, Wolverine doesn't have his claws, so I only see him winning... 10/10.CA gives him a great fight every time, but Wolverine isn't a punching bag here, Cap won't ever be able to amass enough damage to tax his healing factor before Wolverine puts him down, claws or no claws.
Removing the claws would make it take much longer though. It would be a brutal fight.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So you were just being Captain Obvious. Okay.Logan's HF allowed him to no-sell nerve strikes from Echo, who was mimicking Daredevil's and Bullseye's moves...
there are nerve strikes, and then there is a shield bash to lethal spots from captain america that is able to tear thru metal with those strikes. as i pointed out earlier, without his shield cap demonstrated in a fight that he can damage wolverine when he used pressure points on his wrists and hurt wolverine with that move. this was just with his hands no vibranium shield. a shield strike to the throat, followed by a shield strike with the sharp edge of the shield to the tample followed by the back of the head IMO can KO wolverine and overload his nerve system for a clean ko. and please save me the random scans of hulk punching wolverine or him surviving a nuke with a smile...
Originally posted by DareangelWolverines very first apearance had Wendigo, AND Hulk.
there are nerve strikes, and then there is a shield bash to lethal spots from captain america that is able to tear thru metal with those strikes. as i pointed out earlier, without his shield cap demonstrated in a fight that he can damage wolverine when he used pressure points on his wrists and hurt wolverine with that move. this was just with his hands no vibranium shield. a shield strike to the throat, followed by a shield strike with the sharp edge of the shield to the tample followed by the back of the head IMO can KO wolverine and overload his nerve system for a clean ko. and please save me the random scans of hulk punching wolverine or him surviving a nuke with a smile...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And you're nothing more than LoB's humping toy...
Originally posted by Ize19
Captain America will always give Wolverine a great fight. The two are about the same strength, about the same speed, close to the same skill, with Wolverine having the edge in all three. Add to that, Cap's shield is a great counter to Wolverine's claws, and it's a very entertaining match. Of course, in this match, Wolverine doesn't have his claws, so I only see him winning... 10/10.CA gives him a great fight every time, but Wolverine isn't a punching bag here, Cap won't ever be able to amass enough damage to tax his healing factor before Wolverine puts him down, claws or no claws.
Just as I said.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Cap wins, those saying otherwise are communists...And you know it's true because abhi and I agree lol
Finally we agree on something.
Originally posted by emu
Wolverines very first apearance had Wendigo, AND Hulk.
So lets not rule out random Hulk feats because it's 'just your Woverine'.
Haven't noticed yet Logans healing factor HAS to be lowballed from his average, because it's Captain America?
This is the vs forum, no lowballing is needed
i see you are one of those that believe just because when he is facing hulk he can hang(like basically most characters that fight him and are not suppose to) it suddenly makes wolverine imune to any damage that is < hulks punch. that contradicts the complete majority of his showings and history. i can also bring mister X knocking him out with just beating. but we dont focus on the merges but the average and usual. also, there is a difference between getting a blunt force punch from a fist covering your entire body, and getting a percise nerve strike with the endge of a vibranium shield used by captain america (you know his strength and all)
Originally posted by Dareangel
i see you are one of those that believe just because when he is facing hulk he can hang(like basically most characters that fight him and are not suppose to) it suddenly makes wolverine imune to any damage that is < hulks punch. that contradicts the complete majority of his showings and history. i can also bring mister X knocking him out with just beating. but we dont focus on the merges but the average and usual. also, there is a difference between getting a blunt force punch from a fist covering your entire body, and getting a percise nerve strike with the endge of a vibranium shield used by captain america (you know his strength and all)
Unless Captain America has a small army shooting, slicing, and burning Wolverine up before hand, as well as a gang of assassins, one possessed by Ogun, wearing him down further beforehand, he won't find Mr X's example very profitable to imitate. And Wolverine can land adamantium backed nerve strikes too, bet Cap won't handle them as well as Logan will. And lol at Wolverine not supposed to be able to fight Hulk, aka the character he was created to go up against. Wolverine's usual durability>>>>>>>>Cap's usual durability, and a shield that he can be separated from won't change that.
Originally posted by DareangelI didn't mention Wolverine being immune to damage, I mentioned Logans healing tanking Hulks punches as his norm.
i see you are one of those that believe just because when he is facing hulk he can hang(like basically most characters that fight him and are not suppose to) it suddenly makes wolverine imune to any damage that is < hulks punch. that contradicts the complete majority of his showings and history. i can also bring mister X knocking him out with just beating. but we dont focus on the merges but the average and usual. also, there is a difference between getting a blunt force punch from a fist covering your entire body, and getting a percise nerve strike with the endge of a vibranium shield used by captain america (you know his strength and all)
If you dont want to use just about every brick feat he has, use his countless feats healing injuries that dwarf anything a street leveller can deal.
A car slamming into you won't f*ck you up, but god help a finger poke on a bunch of muscles hiding a bunch of nerves lol.