X-23 vs. Black Panther

Started by leonidas7 pages

pretty much... lol

curious though--how exactly is the suit more powerful....? and proof of its increased power? it has some different powers it seems, and bp has learned to shift the energy of his daggers, but how is the suit more powerful exactly?

It took an RPG with no problem
It absorbs energy and redirects it in the form of kinetic blasts
It has the kimoyo tech built into the suit

etc....

Regarding Black Panther Stats...he was peak human BEFORE Hickman upgrade.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2795819-current_black_panther_is_super_human.png

Ok, this can be seen as PIS...but is just a example to show that he is no more street level. He was in the group who attacked Thanos:

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/civil-war-ii-fcbd-2016-greenmangroup-dcp-014.jpg

In Civil War II, he was able to hold Iron man:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/4voA__PGd4LINjmoExXFStnEUocGOLrPo3_-BgYILx3mpFQLeI08MvGOyHMq4Hi6vuTW0ZAUfezg=s0

If we get his feats AFTER Hickman upgrade...we have him fighting against Namor, Black Dwarf, breaking a cell that Tony was unable to:
http://imgur.com/a/XVa01

Originally posted by leonidas
ltbh ds is the only one who has presented anything new. pretty sure most bp 'fans' weren't even aware of his new suit and its abilities. lol

NOW he can attack her spirit? if, ds, you mean summoning the dead against her, then, sure, he wins. i'd have figured that wasn't really an option here but if that is allowed, i concede. but it seems to me that is the ONLY way he gets a sure win out of this battle.... despite his, er, 'evolved' status in marvel.

That's because DS is amazing, and occasionally knows what he's talking about 👆

And no, most fans weren't. I seem to be the only one here.

As for summoning the dead...meh. I have no dog in this fight, I don't really care lol. But I just thought I'd actually correct some things. Like:

Originally posted by Vanguard
No dood.

On Priests site where he said Panther can't be stabbed period.


Yeah but Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing him now.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
http://worldofblackheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/new-avengers-20-3.jpg
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Irrelephant. Unless we could go the Batman route, and have EVERY single item he has shown to use, and say that's his standard gear?

Originally posted by StyleTime
I can't recall any feats against that, so I guess it'd just be standard resistance.
That said, BP had to go to the Necropolis beforehand and summon those spirits in your scan.

https://postimg.org/image/n7pdb7tzv/

It seemed like something that required prep, so I didn't think it'd matter much in this fight. Can he just do it whenever now?

He does it quite casually:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4vPu4cskWiA/WSWcwjvqNNI/AAAAAAAD1nA/s9Rx4KRO9WoJt9rLarhRSRzb2wkSiHZDACLcB/s1600/019_007.jpg

The scan you posted showed him using Eden to open the gate so that the dead could pass over. Once over, though, they are now in the 616 reality, as they have 'crossed the bridge'.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ru2ppN4Y4Bc/WOx2RjsWzlI/AAAAAAADHI4/HbHhPMfwCMMLxcc4i8axByskEyLvcAf1wCLcB/s1600/08_24.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ocCoEIzWmyw/WOx2SJQ0fBI/AAAAAAADHJA/PAAXKMDy51EPS-xK9WiQWBrtsmuL9T-IwCLcB/s1600/08_25.jpg

Plus, he still has his spirit spear thingybob. Which seems to be a threat even to the dead - so possibly a spirit attack?

And again, casually summoning his spear:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PN6tBMT7scw/WSWcyBxkrtI/AAAAAAAD1nc/XvuKK-tXobwIYmA5wZ0AO_R9E9CS4x0VwCLcB/s1600/019_015.jpg

Spirit weapon might be a solid choice to bypass the HF.

yeah, that is a possibility for sure. need to see what it can actually do.

It can glow in the dark.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He does it quite casually:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4vPu4cskWiA/WSWcwjvqNNI/AAAAAAAD1nA/s9Rx4KRO9WoJt9rLarhRSRzb2wkSiHZDACLcB/s1600/019_007.jpg

The scan you posted showed him using Eden to open the gate so that the dead could pass over. Once over, though, they are now in the 616 reality, as they have 'crossed the bridge'.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ru2ppN4Y4Bc/WOx2RjsWzlI/AAAAAAADHI4/HbHhPMfwCMMLxcc4i8axByskEyLvcAf1wCLcB/s1600/08_24.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ocCoEIzWmyw/WOx2SJQ0fBI/AAAAAAADHJA/PAAXKMDy51EPS-xK9WiQWBrtsmuL9T-IwCLcB/s1600/08_25.jpg

Plus, he still has his spirit spear thingybob. Which seems to be a threat even to the dead - so possibly a spirit attack?

And again, casually summoning his spear:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PN6tBMT7scw/WSWcyBxkrtI/AAAAAAAD1nc/XvuKK-tXobwIYmA5wZ0AO_R9E9CS4x0VwCLcB/s1600/019_015.jpg


I see where you're coming from, but I'm not convinced quite yet.

https://postimg.org/image/7llgwczuh/

It showed he was still in the City of the Dead when he summoned them again, and they were already waiting for him in that conference room. It's entirely possible he needs to be there to summon them, and likely did it before hand, since that is consistent with the original summoning. If he starts summoning them mid battle, I'll be more open to the idea. Right now, I think it's best left in the prep column.

It's entirely possible they serve an advisory function now too. Going by statements, they only rallied to fight "one last time", and haven't been seen in action since. (Granted, not many issues have passed)

https://postimg.org/image/n7pdb7tzv/

The spear thing is interesting, but, like half the stuff mentioned here, we don't have much data on it. Or if it's something he'd regularly use once back in contact with mainstream Marvel. He's only actually used it in one fight so far, right?

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Regarding Black Panther Stats...he was peak human BEFORE Hickman upgrade.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/2795819-current_black_panther_is_super_human.png

Ok, this can be seen as PIS...but is just a example to show that he is no more street level. He was in the group who attacked Thanos:

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/civil-war-ii-fcbd-2016-greenmangroup-dcp-014.jpg

In Civil War II, he was able to hold Iron man:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/4voA__PGd4LINjmoExXFStnEUocGOLrPo3_-BgYILx3mpFQLeI08MvGOyHMq4Hi6vuTW0ZAUfezg=s0

If we get his feats AFTER Hickman upgrade...we have him fighting against Namor, Black Dwarf, breaking a cell that Tony was unable to:
http://imgur.com/a/XVa01


He had no problems keeping up with his higher tiered teammates when they were fighting a small army of Void/Sentry and Venom hybrids.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zSfitM2S0Po/VyroGbu9f6I/AAAAAAACCUE/j3esBfOZwXoHtWUHOdX18kSUWOYEfgM9QCLcB/s1600/70_03.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-R4MGPKe4vH8/VyroGyp2C3I/AAAAAAACCUI/blhTMdkhUlw2Ft6G08q0O8rwFXXJyGV1gCLcB/s1600/70_04.jpg

So what? Nobody ever has any problems keeping up with their team-mates.

Hawkeye isn't the equal of Thor or Iron Man.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Hawkeye isn't the equal of Thor

Lord Barton has easily matched the power of Mjolnir strike.

I catch you blaspheming like that again, you're banned for good.

Originally posted by krisblaze
So what? Nobody ever has any problems keeping up with their team-mates.

Hawkeye isn't the equal of Thor or Iron Man.


You know, I could have easily said that he had no issues battling Void/Sentry and Venom hybrids for a whole issue...

laura could perform as well in that setting. and she has, in similar settings. cool scans though--where is that from?

Contest of Champions #8.

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Panther has a new style called "Shadow Combat" also. It's a mixture of K'un Lun and other styles. Might as well throw that in there.

Bump

Y'know, it's always been kinda unclear to me whether adamantium claws could easily shred Black Panther's vibranium suit. I'm happy to be disabused of this notion?