Originally posted by Sable
Where is your proof Thors skin is more Durable then Adamentium that survived the Phoenix Force.
None. I never said that Asgardians or Asgardian steel is tougher than Adamantium. My claim was that it's also foolish to assume that adamantium is tougher than Asgardian or Asgardian steel.
As far as I'm concerned, until such time that clear proof is given, adamantium and Asgardian steel are roughly equal since they're both tougher than any current steel man has.
But now since you made the claim that Adamantium is tougher than Thor then it's up to you to prove that stance.
Originally posted by FrothByte
None. I never said that Asgardians or Asgardian steel is tougher than Adamantium. My claim was that it's also foolish to assume that adamantium is tougher than Asgardian or Asgardian steel.As far as I'm concerned, until such time that clear proof is given, adamantium and Asgardian steel are roughly equal since they're both tougher than any current steel man has.
But now since you made the claim that Adamantium is tougher than Thor then it's up to you to prove that stance.
No you made a false equivalence that "earth metal" has no effect on Asgradians. And tried to imply Adamentium was an earth metal.
You debate cowardly, you claim something, someone disagrees then You say it's on them to prove you wrong. I have asked you many times, who made you the authority on feats around here
Originally posted by Sable
No you made a false equivalence that "earth metal" has no effect on Asgradians. And tried to imply Adamentium was an earth metal.You debate cowardly, you claim something, someone disagrees then You say it's on them to prove you wrong. I have asked you many times, who made you the authority on feats around here
On the contrary, I claim something and stand by what I said. When someone convinces me that I was mistaken, I acknowledge and admit it, as others on this site can attest to. But when someone lies about what I said then is it any surprise that I'd speak out and correct them?
You have a habit of misunderstanding what I say, twisting my words to backup your arguments, probably because you know you can't out-debate me in an honest conversation.
Numerous times I have clarified what I meant so that we could resolve a misunderstanding. All those times you put blinders on and refuse to acknowledge my clarification, insisting on your own version of my statements.
As for the authority on feats, you seem to be new here so let me educate you: Around here feats is gold. We debate using feats, not simple opinions and hurled threats... although you'll see those too.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You mean when Jean was massively holding back against Logan?
So jeans disintegration can be throttled? She can either chose to fully disintegrate the island area, buildings and people, but at the same time, throttle her disintegration level do you have proof of that?
Originally posted by FrothByte
On the contrary, I claim something and stand by what I said. When someone convinces me that I was mistaken, I acknowledge and admit it, as others on this site can attest to. But when someone lies about what I said then is it any surprise that I'd speak out and correct them?You have a habit of misunderstanding what I say, twisting my words to backup your arguments, probably because you know you can't out-debate me in an honest conversation.
Your inability to make a legitimate argument doesn't reflect on my debating ability. You literally said "if I punch you on a plane, does that mean I'm moving at super speed." You have been proven wrong at every level by multiple people. Some have even left the thread because of your ignorance on the subject material.
Originally posted by FrothByte
On the contrary, I claim something and stand by what I said. When someone convinces me that I was mistaken, I acknowledge and admit it, as others on this site can attest to. But when someone lies about what I said then is it any surprise that I'd speak out and correct them?You have a habit of misunderstanding what I say, twisting my words to backup your arguments, probably because you know you can't out-debate me in an honest conversation.
Numerous times I have clarified what I meant so that we could resolve a misunderstanding. All those times you put blinders on and refuse to acknowledge my clarification, insisting on your own version of my statements.
As for the authority on feats, you seem to be new here so let me educate you: Around here feats is gold. We debate using feats, not simple opinions and hurled threats... although you'll see those too.
What feats have I used that were not feats, it's your opinions as such that Superman and Zod were not trading complex blows at super speed. That's your opinion, screen feats prove otherwise. You interjected your opinion on what you consider super speed and what you don't. So again, who made you the authority on what is and isn't?
She clearly intensified her power on him as he was getting closer, then when he got all the way to her, Jean was able to break through the Phoenix mindset and ask him to kill her. Proof is in the pudding. You can clearly see her focusing and struggling to kill him. Jean doesn't break through until the very end.
Based on feats and implied statements: 1. Mjolnir 2. Adamantium 3. Asgardian metals 4. Earth metals
And staying off topic--Phoenix was disintegrating large amounts of metal and superhuman mutants at a staggering rate, and Wolverine's tissues are damaged about as easily as a tough human. He would have been totally reduced to bare dead adamantium if Jean wasn't fighting against the Phoenix every bit of the way on the attack against him. Colossus and Juggernaut would been disintegrated, Sentinels would have been disintegrated, etc.