Originally posted by carver9Superman being able to drop so-called mental blocks is a myth slash lie. If that were the case he could have done that with prime. He didn't because he cannot. He lost to prime period. If he could have gotten any stronger, WHY DIDN'T HE??? That's not the only example either.
Did Superman hold back the entire time against Prime? Why bring backup when he faced prime a second time if he had the power to stop him?
Originally posted by carver9For a point of reference: Superman has only dropped all(key word) of his self-imposed mental blocks and fully(key word) cut loose TWICE in his entire ~80 year character history...across hundredS of different titles...across thousandS of different appearances. The first time was against Doomsday during DoS; the second time was against the forces of Imperiex during OWAW.
Did Superman hold back the entire time against Prime? Why bring backup when he faced prime a second time if he had the power to stop him?
Suffice to say: writers rarely ever go there because they simply don't *need* to. They can typically invoke varying degrees of PIS and whatnot to save the day if Superman alone cannot(which is a rarity in itself) -- that's what we saw during Lo3W when Supes summoned the entire LoSH to help fight Prime, for example...
Comics aren't written with your battleboard standards in mind, lol.
So all writers follow the aspect of Superman mental blocks? You're basically saying every Superman writer follow the same mentality when it comes to this hidden ability. That doesn't even make sense. I'm sure the person who wrote Prime vs Superman didn't even think about these mental blocks. If he did, he wouldn't have had two Supermen grabbing Prime, slamming him into a field of kryptonite, slamming him into a red star and crash landing him on a planet filled with kryptonite. Why go to those lengths when Superman can easily unleash these mental blocks and beat on Prime himself. Wouldn't that have been the best thing to do anyways? Prime did far more damage than all of the probes combined.
If Superman had the power to take Prime out, he would have done it when he brought a gang of heros but nope, more people died,while he was right there watching.
Originally posted by carver9
You didn't read my post but whatever.
Yes he did, you just don't have a better counter.
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JBL, stop lying. Having imaginary friends is fine and all, but pretending they give you any kind of authority is just plain silly. Opinions are one thing, but directly contradicting comics? Not okay.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes he did, you just don't have a better counter.==
JBL, stop lying. Having imaginary friends is fine and all, but pretending they give you any kind of authority is just plain silly. Opinions are one thing, but directly contradicting comics? Not okay.
His post is easy to counter but me and Galan don't get anywhere in debates which is the reason I left it alone.
Why is so hard to understand the concept? If you were a constant reader of those comics the idead will be easy understandable.
But since you base your idea on a few showings that is why is so dificult for you to undesrtand.
Please understand this
When DC gave John Byrne the rein over Superman. John Byrne made Superman's powers to be psionic based, this was completely on purpose by Byrne, so future writers could play with Superman's power level and make it fluctuate as much as they want so it adjusted with their stories.
Grab the Byrne relaunch and notice how Byrne do actually touches this idea during his run. Writers could have used this idea as it was place in there by the Byrne relaunch.
And there is also a John Byrne interview in which He talks about the psionic powers and his complete intention of others being able to play with Superman's power level with out the need to explain why he looked stronger on one issue and weaker in the next issue.
I have read the interview, but I don't recall where I did read it. I don't remember if it was on a man of steel compilation or if it was on a wizard magazine. But anyhow, this is the reason why Byrne said Superman's powers were psionic in nature and why you see Byrne and other writers used the psionic nature of powers.
Carver debating Galan:
Originally posted by -Pr-Imaginary friends??? Lying?? Debate over. Don't tell me who my friends are. Dispute what I say about superman I don't care. Leave my friends out of this.
Yes he did, you just don't have a better counter.==
JBL, stop lying. Having imaginary friends is fine and all, but pretending they give you any kind of authority is just plain silly. Opinions are one thing, but directly contradicting comics? Not okay.
The two people arguing the hardest against this have both ignored my scans showing Superman noting he's weaker than before in the Post-FLASHPOINT universe BEFORE merging back with his split energy and me asking if he wasn't weakened by the split why was he weaker there, AND are ignoring scans in this very thread showing Superman's durability fluctuating, something they have to ignore to continue their disproven arguments.
Originally posted by JBL
Imaginary friends??? Lying?? Debate over. Don't tell me who my friends are. Dispute what I say about superman I don't care. Leave my friends out of this.
One: you would have to have friends to begin with for him to tell you who they are. That's why he said"imaginary friends." Two: clearly you care given how many Superman topics you have meltdowns in even if they have nothing to do with Marvel.