Super fast Hercules vs WW Hulk

The thing with "wwh" is that 1) it's a misnomer cause it's the name of the arc not the character, even in the scan I put up he was saying they call him the "Worldbreaker" which is the real name you want to use since it actually applies and goes back to Planet Hulk proper. 2) The rules Hulk set for himself are clearly defined and the KMC battlfield is made for someone like him to fight without restrictions. I just brought it up cause Sentry fought far less cause of the self imposed restrictions cause of the EARTH yet Sentry lost while also using more power than ever seen prior

Originally posted by leonidas
spidey has

"SPIDEY" has completely-completely failed in the WWH arc.

He was treated as some below-peak human (athlete at best) z-lister and got raped by one of Hulk's Warbound.

Originally posted by leonidas
spidey has made hulk look ridiculous with his speed and qs has literally made parker appear to be a statue. this would end quickly.

Herc wins, every single time. Superior speed, almost the same strength and superior h2h skills + superior sexappeal.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"SPIDEY" has completely-completely failed in the WWH arc.

He was treated as some below-peak human (athlete at best) z-lister and got raped by one of Hulk's Warbound.

lol least he didn't become nothing more than a punching bag.

and herc has stalemated savage in every encounter. he's certainly looked hella better than thor did when he fought hulk w/o his hammer. not even close tbh.

Originally posted by leonidas
herc has stalemated savage in every encounter.

Originally posted by ODG
Savage Hulk vs Bi-Beast, from Incredible Hulk #216:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast01216.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast04.jpg

Savage Hulk vs Bi-Beast rematch, from Defenders vol.2 #6:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast10Defendersv26.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast11.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast12.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast13.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast15.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast16.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast17.jpg

World War Hulk vs Bi-Beast (amped) and Wendigo (amped), from Incredible Hulks #631:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast05631.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast06.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast08.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20A-E/HulkvsBi-Beast09.jpg

Baptiste Wendigo (same as the amped x 1000 one)

Originally posted by ODG
[B]Savage Hulk (w/ Banner's mind) and Sasquatch vs Wendigo, from Incredible Hulk #272:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20T-Z/HulkvsWendigo13272.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20T-Z/HulkvsWendigo14.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20T-Z/HulkvsWendigo15.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20T-Z/HulkvsWendigo16.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20T-Z/HulkvsWendigo17.jpg

Prof. Hulk has also beaten Strong guy and Quicksilver simultaneously, likening them to Fleas

Sorry but Green scar would oneshot this amalgam thing and the fight would end faster than usual cause Hercules would make his way to Hulk's fists faster than he usually would

wut? wwh couldn't even definitively beat juggernaut. if he truly were 1000's of times more powerful than his previous incarnation, i feel safe in saying we wouldn't have seen basically a draw in strength between juggs and hulk... hell, a case could be made easily that savage looked better against juggernaut than wwh did. and you're comparing 2 hulks anyway. hotm hulk and wwh were different, as far as threads and intent go, in spite of your effort to conflate the 2. /shrug

if rao didn't intend for the thread to be based solely upon the traditional 'wwh' arc, then i'll apologize and concede your point. but i'd be willing to bet he wanted us to stick to the hulk as depicted in that arc. rao?

It was directly referenced in the scan I posted so Rao can apply a false distinction if he wants to or not, the truth is there. The Juggernaut fight is another thing entirely but if you want to call that a fight in earnest, tossing holding back effecting his performance, Prof Hulk (mind controlled) has beaten Hercules and then fought Juggernaut in the same issue

If you think "WWH" that fought Juggernaut is the same level that fought Sentry in the climax of the arc, you're lying to yourself.

Yes I meant WWH as in WWH arc. Not HOTM Hulk. Otherwise I will have said WBH or HOTM Hulk.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
It was directly referenced in the scan I posted so Rao can apply a false distinction if he wants to or not, the truth is there. The Juggernaut fight is another thing entirely but if you want to call that a fight in earnest, tossing holding back effecting his performance, Prof Hulk (mind controlled) has beaten Hercules and then fought Juggernaut in the same issue

If you think "WWH" that fought Juggernaut is the same level that fought Sentry in the climax of the arc, you're lying to yourself.

the sentry battle was the showcase fight and lasted far longer. hulk basically knew he couldn't beat juggs so just got rid of him, but while they did fight, juggs knocked him down easily with a couple shots, soooo.....yeah. and if you think hulk actually needed to be more than 1000x stronger than he has been portrayed typically to simply MATCH sentry in what was primarily a h2h fight, then i'm afriad i'm not the one lying to himself pg. there is a pretty clear distinction between the portrayals, which of course is why rao confirmed his intention of sticking to the actual wwh arc.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol least he didn't become nothing more than a punching bag.

and herc has stalemated savage in every encounter. he's certainly looked hella better than thor did when he fought hulk w/o his hammer. not even close tbh.

"Stalemated", as in getting called skirtman, having teams on his side and still losing?

Namor is the real powerhouse with an excellent track record against the Green Goliath.

Hercules us strong enough to hurt WWH as we seen in the arc.

With qs speed WWH would appear to be a statue. Qs can see bullets almost as statues. And bullets are primarily faster than Hulk.

Debating for Hulk is the single most uphill battle on KMC.

Originally posted by leonidas
the sentry battle was the showcase fight and lasted far longer. hulk basically knew he couldn't beat juggs so just got rid of him, but while they did fight, juggs knocked him down easily with a couple shots, soooo.....yeah. and if you think hulk actually needed to be more than 1000x stronger than he has been portrayed typically to simply MATCH sentry in what was primarily a h2h fight, then i'm afriad i'm not the one lying to himself pg. there is a pretty clear distinction between the portrayals, which of course is why rao confirmed his intention of sticking to the actual wwh arc.

All logic and evidence is being denied from me cause of reasons and now this. All you have to do is look at both showings side by side and use deductive reasoning. If you think the Juggernaut fight was fought with the same output as used against Sentry then it's not lying but more so a form of handicap to blame.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hercules us strong enough to hurt WWH as we seen in the arc.

With qs speed WWH would appear to be a statue. Qs can see bullets almost as statues. And bullets are primarily faster than Hulk.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Debating for Hulk is the single most uphill battle on KMC.

.....jeez. Guess what, Leo: Hulk's strength is dynamic

All logic and evidence is being denied from me cause of reasons and now this. All you have to do is look at both showings side by side and use deductive reasoning. If you think the Juggernaut fight was fought with the same output as used against Sentry then it's not lying but more so a form of handicap to blame.

Lol. Just ignore everything on-panel for a robotic, pseudo-scientific summation. Beautiful.

What did I ignore? Hercules was shown to damage WWH.
Do you think WWH is faster than a bullet?

None of it matters that much is what you don't care to realize. The gulf in power is enormous

What if Herc was moulded into a bullet shape, and fired from a giant cannon?

That would be murder and Hulk doesn't do that

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Debating for Hulk is the single most uphill battle on KMC.

.....jeez. Guess what, Leo: Hulk's strength is dynamic

All logic and evidence is being denied from me cause of reasons and now this. All you have to do is look at both showings side by side and use deductive reasoning. If you think the Juggernaut fight was fought with the same output as used against Sentry then it's not lying but more so a form of handicap to blame.

Lol. Just ignore everything on-panel for a robotic, pseudo-scientific summation. Beautiful.

i don't get why you think there was a huge difference between when he fought sentry and when he fought juggs. seriously. was hulk stronger when he fought sentry than when he fought juggs? i dunno, maybe? way stronger? i certainly don't think so. hulk/juggs/sentry--all are near the top of the strength tier so.... he certainly didn't seem stronger fighting zom/strange. for the most part it looked like he stayed around the same level throughout that arc. his next 'stage' to me came when he started going wbh and threatened the seaboard or whatever. so, i'm not really seeing what you're seeing, and the distinction between hulks is actually a forum rule specifically for these forum matches, so....i dunno. blame pr. usually works for me.

Green scar is the easiest persona to define cause it stretches from Planet Hulk to the climax of Heart of the monster only being interrupted in between when his power is drained from the Cathexis ray and Red Hulk. The only thing that didn't happen in "WWH" that did happen after is that he got to unleash his power that you only saw glimpse of in WWH, so it's actually required to be thorough and use the whole thing rather than just a snippet that purposefully removes context.

Anyway, this argument is going away from Hercules' feats as usual cause there aren't any of note.

Sentry in wwh#5 was a whole level above what Juggernaut was dishing out and it's pretty obvious, you don't even need to go by the narrative raising the stakes as the issues went on.

If anyone wants we can have a battlezone between Skaar (whom Hulk easily defeated) and Juggernaut, but just so you know this is how their fight ended:

The off-brand version more than enough...