And here is the last scan (because adding it like the others breaches the image limit.)
Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't say he was koed but rocked and got damaged.
It was a surprised attack. He sucked in gas before that hit. Hercules would do that to ANY Herald/trans tier character if they were put in the same situation and I'm hoping you say he wouldn't so that I can prove you wrong. Say it!!!
Originally posted by carver9
It was a surprised attack. He sucked in gas before that hit. Hercules would do that to ANY Herald/trans tier character if they were put in the same situation and I'm hoping you say he wouldn't so that I can prove you wrong. Say it!!!
Except he now has all the feats of QS.
QS, who can throw with the strength of a billion blows:
http://i.imgur.com/9D11ZKa.png
Who can throw a thousand punches in the time it takes Gorgon to deliver one:
http://i.imgur.com/Xkego5d.png
(btw, he LET Gorgon tag him):
http://i.imgur.com/pdSvav0.png
And can phuck the HE up:
http://imgur.com/a/xX1tR
The same HE who was no-selling Rogue/Wonder Man's blows:
http://i.imgur.com/I15jgwi.png
Who's fast enough to tag Spidey (plus others, like Wolverine, Cage, Cap Marvel etc) all at once:
http://i.imgur.com/E3hgh4Q.png
And we of course know it took WWH SEVERAL punches just to KO Wolverine, and even earthquake level punches were unable to KO Cage.
NOW, Herc has that same speed. He has his fighting skills, his willingness to fight dirty:
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s311/ecq200/IncredibleHercules128-thepowerofamillionexplodingsuns.jpg
And in this thread, he's actually wanting to fight, rather than talk the Hulk down.
nice. was going to post some qs scans, but seemed a bit pointless. seems we could give herc light speed and it wouldn't matter to some. smh indeed....
and thanks oas. 👆
and while you're here: that version of sentry, that was the same sentry that had his lights punched out by blue marvel correct? not saying that to bait you at all lol there was a nice light show going on around hulk and sentry in that fight, with some reasonable collateral damage, but we've SEEN firsthand what a REAL cutting lose sentry can do, and....this wasn't close to it. so, in terms of basic strength, this was the same sentry that bm ko'd, yes? in general?
anyway, the clear distinction between this hulk and hotm hulk is ludicrous in the extreme. between hulk and betty they destroyed a PLANET. between hulk and sentry? a building? a small part of the city maybe? 😐 yeah, very similar portrayals. smh doesn't do justice to the idea of viewing them the same... and obviously against sentry hulk powered down whereas in the DD he only continued to escalate. beyond ridiculous to view them the same for any kind of thread.
it's like some people don't think hulk can be ko'd or something. i won't bother with the scans. we've all seen them. and yet withstanding 5-6 punches from sentry in their EPIC throw down qualifies hulk to simply tank THOUSANDS of hits from hercules. staggering. is sentry stronger than herc? probably, but the difference is likely pretty small. does he have dynamic strength too? oas?
i wonder what might have happened had sentry ACTUALLY used...ANY speed in that fight? at all. dodge. hit, what 10000 times since he's so much faster than qs? dodge. hit another 10000? but hulk handles that easily too, yes?
there is a reason bricks who have super speed don't fight like speedsters. if they do, they do to mongul level characters what superman did to mongul while training. i don't have the scans. abhi? phil?
i do agree with stoic in one sense--this thread IS indeed outrageous. beyond that, tbh.
Originally posted by leonidas
nice. was going to post some qs scans, but seemed a bit pointless. seems we could give herc light speed and it wouldn't matter to some. smh indeed....and thanks oas. 👆
and while you're here: that version of sentry, that was the same sentry that had his lights punched out by blue marvel correct? not saying that to bait you at all lol there was a nice light show going on around hulk and sentry in that fight, with some reasonable collateral damage, but we've SEEN firsthand what a REAL cutting lose sentry can do, and....this wasn't close to it. so, in terms of basic strength, this was the same sentry that bm ko'd, yes? in general?
anyway, the clear distinction between this hulk and hotm hulk is ludicrous in the extreme. between hulk and betty they destroyed a PLANET. between hulk and sentry? a building? a small part of the city maybe? 😐 yeah, very similar portrayals. smh doesn't do justice to the idea of viewing them the same... and obviously against sentry hulk powered down whereas in the DD he only continued to escalate. beyond ridiculous to view them the same for any kind of thread.
it's like some people don't think hulk can be ko'd or something. i won't bother with the scans. we've all seen them. and yet withstanding 5-6 punches from sentry in their EPIC throw down qualifies hulk to simply tank THOUSANDS of hits from hercules. staggering. is sentry stronger than herc? probably, but the difference is likely pretty small. does he have dynamic strength too? oas?
i wonder what might have happened had sentry ACTUALLY used...ANY speed in that fight? at all. dodge. hit, what 10000 times since he's so much faster than qs? dodge. hit another 10000? but hulk handles that easily too, yes?
there is a reason bricks who have super speed don't fight like speedsters. if they do, they do to mongul level characters what superman did to mongul while training. i don't have the scans. abhi? phil?
i do agree with stoic in one sense--this thread IS indeed outrageous. beyond that, tbh.
mmm
Originally posted by leonidas
and while you're here: that version of sentry, that was the same sentry that had his lights punched out by blue marvel correct? not saying that to bait you at all lol
Cheeky 😂
Originally posted by leonidas
nice. was going to post some qs scans, but seemed a bit pointless. seems we could give herc light speed and it wouldn't matter to some. smh indeed....and thanks oas. 👆
there was a nice light show going on around hulk and sentry in that fight, with some reasonable collateral damage, but we've SEEN firsthand what a REAL cutting lose sentry can do, and....this wasn't close to it. so, in terms of basic strength, this was the same sentry that bm ko'd, yes? in general?
anyway, the clear distinction between this hulk and hotm hulk is ludicrous in the extreme. between hulk and betty they destroyed a PLANET. between hulk and sentry? a building? a small part of the city maybe? 😐 yeah, very similar portrayals. smh doesn't do justice to the idea of viewing them the same... and obviously against sentry hulk powered down whereas in the DD he only continued to escalate. beyond ridiculous to view them the same for any kind of thread.
it's like some people don't think hulk can be ko'd or something. i won't bother with the scans. we've all seen them. and yet withstanding 5-6 punches from sentry in their EPIC throw down qualifies hulk to simply tank THOUSANDS of hits from hercules. staggering. is sentry stronger than herc? probably, but the difference is likely pretty small. does he have dynamic strength too? oas?
i wonder what might have happened had sentry ACTUALLY used...ANY speed in that fight? at all. dodge. hit, what 10000 times since he's so much faster than qs? dodge. hit another 10000? but hulk handles that easily too, yes?
there is a reason bricks who have super speed don't fight like speedsters. if they do, they do to mongul level characters what superman did to mongul while training. i don't have the scans. abhi? phil?
i do agree with stoic in one sense--this thread IS indeed outrageous. beyond that, tbh.
This is quite an interesting question mainly because in the Blue Marvel fight Sentry was actually hampered by the Negative Zone leaking out which screwed with his powers. Some people used to say this wasn't true to me but I got author confirmation via twitter (not that I really needed it since the story shows it).
I don't think there's really ever a time one could look at 2 different Sentry stories and have us say these must be similar. The only barometers you can get are when Sentry is at his lowest low or his highs. World War Hulk is a good example of him being at his most unstable in his comic history and also we get an example of what he is capable of when doing that (as he is shown to be going all out). Obviously not his full output due to the circumstances. It's a difficult to question I answer I can't be 100%. I mean I guess you could say they might be in the same ballpark but you would be (and these numbers are just completely random and used for example purposes). You might have a completely dejected Sentry where he is Robert Reynolds at a 0, WWH Sentry at 1000 and the Blue Marvel occasion at 1700 perhaps.
But its harder to quantify because Sentry wasn't in the same mentality he was when he fought Hulk. Sentry was bloodying Blue Marvel at that point and he didn't appear to be over exerting. Imagine if he wanted to be put down in that situation and therefore was hitting Blue Marvel as hard as he could. I don't know how well Blue Marvel would fair. If the Sentry had punched Blue Marvel when he was down he might have ended it there and then if not for his monologue.
He does have dynamic strength yes. I have to admit I don't really like the term but his strength accelerates and declines with his mental state. As confirmed in bios and in examples through the comics. But all of his power, strength, durability is dynamic. Or h can choose to let himself "die" when he got Thor to kill him.
I don't think Sentry was really in the mentality to use speed or anything. In many ways he was fighting like Hulk would, just brutish up close brawling. But if he was in a better state he could have done the exact same thing and had better results if he actually wanted it. If it had been Sentry from Sentry Vol 2 who was going full pelt at WWH it would be a very different story. I mean imagine WWH Sentry but instead he didn't want to be put down. He just carries on getting angrier and more out of control.
And ironically, After Super-Eclipso brush's aside EVERYONE, including Lobo TWICE, Guy saved the day.
With a vat 'o sun, as he called it. 🙂
Was an awesome comic for so many reasons, but especially for Guy's character development and impressing everyone there with his heroics, especially Ice.
All treated like it never happened in every comic afterwards, Guy's still a jerk and everyone hates him up until post Emerald Twilight..
Originally posted by carver9
It was a surprised attack. He sucked in gas before that hit. Hercules would do that to ANY Herald/trans tier character if they were put in the same situation and I'm hoping you say he wouldn't so that I can prove you wrong. Say it!!!
With QS speed every hit would be a surprise hit.
The writer's intentions were that Herc put Hulk down due to strength, not being surprised or having sucked in gas before.
Originally posted by h1a8
scans
https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/incrediblehulk107-022.jpg
Originally posted by One_Angry_ScotBah!
And here is the last scan (because adding it like the others breaches the image limit.)
They were BARELY damaging each other's clothing. Yet, bleeding like pampered lady-boys.
And, they expended all of their power, together, only resulting in a bruised city.
I know of a character who is easily as powerful as Hulk and Sentry and he has NEVER run out of power in a fight.
And, my God, the bellyaching and whining. If that story arch hadnt ended, I'm fairly certain we would have been witness to some horrendous form of hugging, or emotional validation, followed by awkward massage.
I know of a character who is much tougher than Hulk or Sentry and he never goes around crying to his enemies, or needing hugs, or awkward massage.
I will leave it at that, because I know this is a Thor Thubject.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Bah!
Sissies.
So much bleeding and bruising. I know of a chatacter that is as strong as they r and he has never bled or bruised that much.They were BARELY damaging each other's clothing. Yet, bleeding like pampered lady-boys.
And, they expended all of their power, together, only resulting in a bruised city.
I know of a character who is easily as powerful as Hulk and Sentry and he has NEVER run out of power in a fight.
And, my God, the bellyaching and whining. If that story arch hadnt ended, I'm fairly certain we would have been witness to some horrendous form of hugging, or emotional validation, followed by awkward massage.
I know of a character who is much tougher than Hulk or Sentry and he never goes around crying to his enemies, or needing hugs, or awkward massage.
I will leave it at that, because I know this is a Thor Thubject.
Don't get hung up on the art. Andrea Devito also sketched a side story within the same arc, when the Hulk payed the X-Men a visit and there was nowhere near as much bruising. That's just JR Junior's style of sketching.
Originally posted by StoicToo late!!
Don't get hung up on the art. Andrea Devito also sketched a side story within the same arc, when the Hulk payed the X-Men a visit and there was nowhere near as much bruising. That's just JR Junior's style of sketching.
It's not even art anymore.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/incrediblehulk107-022.jpg
Thanks! So it seems Herc putting Hulk on the ground had nothing to do with the gas. It was cleared out by Herc in the last panel.
