Originally posted by psycho gundam
Zeus didn't think of it as a parody when Hulk visited him on mount OlympusBut also, there is literally a formula based on Herc's punching power so I mean, why drag this out
What? That herc unit that Carver was trying to sell as a strength unit that it turn out to be a unit of magical power?
Just saying!
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Cheeky 😂This is quite an interesting question mainly because in the Blue Marvel fight Sentry was actually hampered by the Negative Zone leaking out which screwed with his powers. Some people used to say this wasn't true to me but I got author confirmation via twitter (not that I really needed it since the story shows it).
I don't think there's really ever a time one could look at 2 different Sentry stories and have us say these must be similar. The only barometers you can get are when Sentry is at his lowest low or his highs. World War Hulk is a good example of him being at his most unstable in his comic history and also we get an example of what he is capable of when doing that (as he is shown to be going all out). Obviously not his full output due to the circumstances. It's a difficult to question I answer I can't be 100%. I mean I guess you could say they might be in the same ballpark but you would be (and these numbers are just completely random and used for example purposes). You might have a completely dejected Sentry where he is Robert Reynolds at a 0, WWH Sentry at 1000 and the Blue Marvel occasion at 1700 perhaps.
But its harder to quantify because Sentry wasn't in the same mentality he was when he fought Hulk. Sentry was bloodying Blue Marvel at that point and he didn't appear to be over exerting. Imagine if he wanted to be put down in that situation and therefore was hitting Blue Marvel as hard as he could. I don't know how well Blue Marvel would fair. If the Sentry had punched Blue Marvel when he was down he might have ended it there and then if not for his monologue.
He does have dynamic strength yes. I have to admit I don't really like the term but his strength accelerates and declines with his mental state. As confirmed in bios and in examples through the comics. But all of his power, strength, durability is dynamic. Or h can choose to let himself "die" when he got Thor to kill him.
I don't think Sentry was really in the mentality to use speed or anything. In many ways he was fighting like Hulk would, just brutish up close brawling. But if he was in a better state he could have done the exact same thing and had better results if he actually wanted it. If it had been Sentry from Sentry Vol 2 who was going full pelt at WWH it would be a very different story. I mean imagine WWH Sentry but instead he didn't want to be put down. He just carries on getting angrier and more out of control.
There are several holes in your theory here Scot. First of all BM wasn't in the fight to beat the hell out of anyone, and he was trying to get the Avengers to see his side of things. Sentry was going all out, and after the fight he was barely able to stand. Secondly only on this board has WW Hulk been separated from the persona that he was actually written to be in the comic, which has given people the means to exploit a hole set in place and at times be extremely deceptive about it.
You forget that he drastically held back the entire time even against Sentry. Which means that even if Hercules had Pietro's speed, and we replaced Sentry and put him in his place, Hercules would have lost because the Hulk would have just adjusted his power output accordingly. Hercules is weaker than Sentry, and Pietro is slower which means that Sentry would have beaten Super Fast Hercules as well. In order for Hercules to win here, people would have to continue doing exactly what they have been doing. Low balling the events that took place during WW Hulk without adding a very important element. The Hulk held back the entire time, and took it easy on every opponent that he faced. We know this if we based it off of his last power stunt in the very same story arc. That very power stunt is more than enough to warrant the Hulk being well above even a super fast Hercules.
Originally posted by h1a8
With QS speed every hit would be an even worst surprise.
That wasn't a serious fight H1. The Hulk wasn't going for broke, he hit Herc with less than knock out force, because he knew that he could take it, which is why the Hulk isn't a killer. Every opponent that he faced and defeated was him holding back and calculating what it would take to reach his agenda, which was to bring those he felt responsible in for a trial. Sentry hit him with speedy force, and he stood up to it, all the while still drastically holding back.