Super fast Hercules vs WW Hulk

Originally posted by psycho gundam
That's the foundation the entire premise of this thread hinges on and I would go into lengths to illustrate that it's completely false.

I'm not arguing the same topic twice under the same conditions. That would be a waste of time especially how this thread turned out

you don't get to dictate the thread stips to the thread creator. 😐 and this thread ended just fine imo. you didn't seem to like that i wasn't straying from the topic as stated and explained repeatedly. if you wanted to debate full on green scar or wbh vs super speed herc you should have just opened a new thread instead of trying to force your own definition on an already defined thread. right or wrong is irrelevant to the thread and the stips put on it. i'm not interested in debating where green scar starts and ends, which version should be considered wwh and which hotm hulk. that's idiotic and frankly too damn pedantic to worry about. not looking for a treatise on hulk, just looking to debate the thread, as outlined, clearly. the labels given to hulk exist so people generally know which hulk is being debated. nothing more nothing less. it was clear which version was being used here all along, and i was clearly debating against THAT version. if you're not interested, fine. but i was nothing but clear all along.

Lmao @ this discussion.

Apparently, every WWH thread is now a WBH thread, even when WWH is specifically mentioned.

I'll make sure to debate OWAW Superman in every thread 👆

I've cited the beginning and end of the Hulk persona in question with everything beyond WWH just being used as elaboration on what power that persona was packing. To ignore those showings is to ignore valuable information that explains how much energies were fueling the feats in WWH as it's not mutually exclusive

I'm just being thorough

I don't feel that I would have any need to bring WB Hulk into this to say that WW Hulk would defeat even a super fast Hercules. Sentry is more powerful than Hercules, and faster than Pietro. If we took WW Hulk's best strength feat throughout the series, and put him against this version of Hercules, I'd place all of my bets on WW Hulk absolutely wrecking Hercules. I'd think differently if the Hulk wasn't able to react to people that are extremely fast, but he has, and more than once. The Hulk with the very same persona as WW Hulk was said to have intestines that were 133.5 times stronger than Hercules and this was in a relatively calm state. The idea that Hercules stands a chance here even with the buff is outrageous. Many people may not like it, but there it is. It seems that people are able to accept the idea that Superman drastically holds back over 90% of the time, but when others do it they want to ignore it, even if it was directly stated on panel. WW Hulk wins IMO.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
I've cited the beginning and end of the Hulk persona in question with everything beyond WWH just being used as elaboration on what power that persona was packing. To ignore those showings is to ignore valuable information that explains how much energies were fueling the feats in WWH as it's not mutually exclusive

I'm just being thorough

But you agree that according to his character in the arc that he operated at a capacity that it would take multiple hits by WWH to ko Hercules?

Also, do you agree that Herc is able to damage Hulk somewhat with a good punch as shown when he dropped Hulk in the arc?

How many hits would you say Herc needs (exactly like the ones he dropped Hulk with) in order to ko Hulk?

Originally posted by h1a8
But you agree that according to his character in the arc that he operated at a capacity that it would take multiple hits by WWH to ko Hercules?

Also, do you agree that Herc is able to damage Hulk somewhat with a good punch as shown when he dropped Hulk in the arc?

How many hits would you say Herc needs (exactly like the ones he dropped Hulk with) in order to ko Hulk?

He dropped Hulk with a surprise attack that did nothing. Then he put his entire body into it. I don't think that showing holds here.

Originally posted by carver9
He dropped Hulk with a surprise attack that did nothing. Then he put his entire body into it. I don't think that showing holds here.

Seriously, are you stupid?

Originally posted by carver9
He dropped Hulk with a surprise attack that did nothing. Then he put his entire body into it. I don't think that showing holds here.

Clearly, this rocked Hulk. You see blood coming from Hulk. Hulk gets dropped with his eyes closed (semi koed).

With QS speed, every hit will be a surprise hit.

Originally posted by h1a8
But you agree that according to his character in the arc that he operated at a capacity that it would take multiple hits by WWH to ko Hercules?

Also, do you agree that Herc is able to damage Hulk somewhat with a good punch as shown when he dropped Hulk in the arc?

How many hits would you say Herc needs (exactly like the ones he dropped Hulk with) in order to ko Hulk?

That wasn't a serious fight. When he fought Sentry would be considered to be a serious fight. Giving Hercules super speed here would still place him below Sentry in both power and speed. Sentry attempted to blitz in with more speed than Pietro, and he was stopped with a punch to the face. Why wouldn't the Hulk be able to replicate the feat with this made up version of Hercules? Why imagine things that did not happen when the Hulk faced a guy under similar conditions? The only difference here would be that Hercules would be less powerful, slower, and that he has no energy projection powers.

Originally posted by h1a8
What?

Clearly, this rocked Hulk. You see blood coming from Hulk. Hulk gets dropped with his eyes closed (semi koed).

With QS speed, every hit will be a surprise hit.

He wasn't knocked out. He closed his eyes on impact, and rose the next moment. You're making things up.

Originally posted by Stoic
That wasn't a serious fight. When he fought Sentry would be considered to be a serious fight. Giving Hercules super speed here would still place him below Sentry in both power and speed. Sentry attempted to blitz in with more speed than Pietro, and he was stopped with a punch to the face. Why wouldn't the Hulk be able to replicate the feat with this made up version of Hercules? Why imagine things that did not happen when the Hulk faced a guy under similar conditions? The only difference here would be that Hercules would be less powerful, slower, and that he has no energy projection powers.

You didn't address nor answer any of the questions. It's easy to ignore and state your opinion.

Originally posted by Stoic
He wasn't knocked out. He closed his eyes on impact, and rose the next moment. You're making things up.

Is this a Superman thing?

Like admitting a speed blitz from Herc with Pietro's speed undermines arguments that Supes isn't blitzing Hulk?

Of course it is.

Originally posted by Stoic
He wasn't knocked out. He closed his eyes on impact, and rose the next moment. You're making things up.

He was written hitting the floor with his eyes closed for a reason.

Is it really in debate whether regular Herc could have given World War Hulk a decent fight? Pak is nearly as big of a fan writer of Herc as he is of Hulk!

If he wrote the fight right then and there, I doubt Hulk would just one shot him and be done with it.

yeah i'm beginning to think so too....

curious, how many punches from sentry did hulk actually take? anyone know?

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i'm beginning to think so too....

curious, how many punches from sentry did hulk actually take? anyone know?

By my memory (Which addmitedly isn't the greatest, but I've also re-read this several times), there didn't appear to be very many punch's thrown at all.

There was the initial shot when they first confront each other. After Sentry starts glowing, it's hard to tell whether he's hitting Hulk or just bathing him in his energy..

As they were depowering, there was some shots thrown if that counts..

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i'm beginning to think so too....

curious, how many punches from sentry did hulk actually take? anyone know?

6 Punches from Hulk to Sentry in the fight.

5 Punches from Sentry to Hulk, this discounts the energy type blasts where he has an open palm pushed towards Hulks face.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=559967&pagenumber=2

I'd post the scans but mobile phone.

Was Bada seriously that much of a Hulk fan boy, or was he trolling? 😕

Originally posted by cdtm
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=559967&pagenumber=2

I'd post the scans but mobile phone.

Was Bada seriously that much of a Hulk fan boy, or was he trolling? 😕

Trolling I think. Bada isn't really that severe a fanboy of any character.