Originally posted by abhilegend
He got the teleporter from Hamilton because he could not breathe in space . But yeah, this isn't lightspeed travel.Neither is this.
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And from what I remember, he was using an oxygen mask and could hold his breath for quite a while. So if he was at risk of running out of air before he reached his destination it doesn't speak well for his speed.
Originally posted by darthgoober
There's no time elapse given.And from what I remember, he was using an oxygen mask and could hold his breath for quite a while. So if he was at risk of running out of air before he reached his destination it doesn't speak well for his speed.
An out of breath Superman crossed entire solar system. Must be weeks too.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, he was flying for weeks to reach Saturn.An out of breath Superman crossed entire solar system. Must be weeks too.
Keep in mind, my statement that he couldn't hit lightspeed is based on what I was told by an oldschool Supes fan named batdude123 from back in the day so I'm totally open to evidence to the contrary. It's just that I believe him more than I do you.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Awesome, see now that's a good one. What issue/arc is it from?
Superman was still officially not able to go lightspeed until Mongul taught him how to break his mental blocks under Loeb. In essence him not able to fly that fast was him suppressing his powers, that's it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Action Comics 621 or thereabouts.Superman was still officially not able to go lightspeed until Mongul taught him how to break his mental blocks under Loeb. In essence him not able to fly that fast was him suppressing his powers, that's it.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Sure. Or if Gladiator feels like running away. But when he stays there and tries to go h2h, he wouldn't have any advantage.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah. Then see, officially DOS Supes couldn't go lightspeed... why are you trying to argue against what you yourself admit?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Travel speed IS relevant in regards to something like a bullrush though.
Doomsday pushed his shit in faster than you can say "blitz".
Originally posted by darthgooberOne hit from a bullrushing Gladiator wouldn't even bother Doomsday, considering he's taken this without a scratch:
Depends, Glads bullrushing at top speed would make for one hell of an hit after all. As I said before, I suppose it depends on how much of a factor one considers speed to be in forum fights.
Now, with that said:
a). Show me Gladiator hitting top speed under forum distance
b). Show me Gladiator employing this tactic against opponents.
Speed is a factor, and Doomsday is faster. Combat speed is more relevant than travel speed, otherwise GLs would be kings.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Depends, Glads bullrushing at top speed would make for one hell of an hit after all. As I said before, I suppose it depends on how much of a factor one considers speed to be in forum fights.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Because it's not relevant.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Guy Gardner with yellow ring was there who could travel to the center of the universe by flying.Doomsday pushed his shit in faster than you can say "blitz".
Originally posted by darthgoober
It IS relevant. My point was "Supes couldn't even go lightspeed back then" to which you basically countered "Yes he could, just not officially".
No, it is not. End of discussion.
He did just fly in going all out right out of the gate, he went in cocky and DD caught him by surprise because guy doesn't have actual super speed.
And here I thought people like silver surfer who can fly fast have Superman levels of Superspeed.
That does not applies to green lanterns who are by far faster than Silver Surfer and Gladiator in flight speed?
Originally posted by Philosophía
One hit from a bullrushing Gladiator wouldn't even bother Doomsday, considering he's taken this without a scratch:
http://i.imgur.com/OjMRF7t.jpgNow, with that said:
a). Show me Gladiator hitting top speed under forum distance
b). Show me Gladiator employing this tactic against opponents.Speed is a factor, and Doomsday is faster. Combat speed is more relevant than travel speed, otherwise GLs would be kings.
You seem to be under the impression that I'm saying that this tactic is representative of how I feel forum rules should be interpreted, but I'm not saying that. I'm saying that those who DO feel that speed should be factored in to the extreme degrees even if such an exact occurance never appeared on panel should support the notion. As you know I myself DON'T believe forum rules should be interpreted in such a way.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it is not. End of discussion.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And here I thought people like silver surfer who can fly fast have Superman levels of Superspeed.[QUOTE=16221036]Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]That does not applies to green lanterns who are by far faster than Silver Surfer and Gladiator in flight speed?
Surfer's went FTL in combat and used superspeed... and yes, I know you refuse to acknowledge it so let's not bother derailing the thread with it.
