Gladiator enters DOS

Originally posted by darthgoober
As people frequently point out on the forum "durability against energy doesn't equate to durability against blunt force damage". We're talking about someone who can shatter a planet with 3 punches and can move at 100x lightspeed... that's one hell of an impact.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm saying that this tactic is representative of how I feel forum rules should be interpreted, but I'm not saying that. I'm saying that those who DO feel that speed should be factored in to the extreme degrees even if such an exact occurance never appeared on panel should support the notion. As you know I myself DON'T believe forum rules should be interpreted in such a way.

Heimdall isn't even bloodied. "Planets don't hit back".

Going lightspeed or greater in space is irrelevant to fights. Because top speed doesn't equal acceleration ( instant speed).

For example, I can reach light speed if I accelerated 10m/s^2 from rest for
almost a year.

A character who can reach bullet speeds in a microsecond is far faster than a character who can reach 100x the speed of light in 1 minute in space.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey, a great high end feat from Heimdell means nothing for DD unless DD has himself withstood such a thing.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Sure it is.

Of course it isn't.

Surfer's went FTL in combat and used superspeed... and yes, I know you refuse to acknowledge it so let's not bother derailing the thread with it.

Come at me if you can. I liked how you didn't reply in Superman vs Surfer energy blasts thread BTW.

Originally posted by abhilegend
In Comic portrayals always trumps made up scenarios.

Heimdall isn't even bloodied. "Planets don't hit back".

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you telling us that Heimdall is more durable than Doomsday?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't see DD anywhere in that scan you page stretcher.

Heh, so much backtracking.

No I'm saying that unless DD has a similar showing that Heimdell has at least 1 blunt force durability feat that's better than DD's.

crylaugh

Is it better than say Silver Surfer who has never taken such a shot? Thanos? Galactus? Living Tribunal?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course it isn't.
Heh, Green Lanterns have superior speed feats than Surfer in every category.

Come at me if you can. I liked how you didn't reply in Superman vs Surfer energy blasts thread BTW.

Oh please abhi, no one wants to see you and I go back and forth about Surfer in any scenario that everyone and their dog knows will quickly devolve into you basically saying "NUH UH!" to every point I make. That's why I've decided to take mod advice and not engage you in your ridiculousness. Hell even this convo has nearly run it's course.

Originally posted by darthgoober
As people frequently point out on the forum "durability against energy doesn't equate to durability against blunt force damage". We're talking about someone who can shatter a planet with 3 punches and can move at 100x lightspeed... that's one hell of an impact.

You seem to be under the impression that I'm saying that this tactic is representative of how I feel forum rules should be interpreted, but I'm not saying that. I'm saying that those who DO feel that speed should be factored in to the extreme degrees even if such an exact occurance never appeared on panel should support the notion. As you know I myself DON'T believe forum rules should be interpreted in such a way.

You didn't answer any of my questions. Where did Gladiator instantly achieve his top speed within .5 km, which is the distance the fight starts at? And furthermore, when has he employed this tactic [top speed punch], against who, and how successful was it? Up until now, we have Heimdall, and he failed miserably. Anything else? Because your case is really weak. Also, space cheese is irrelevant - you should know that by now, you've read comics for quite a while.

Byrne Superman was capable of punching with such force, that nothing in the Universe could stop it:
http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/SupermanStrengthNoForce.jpg.html
He couldn't do shit to Doomsday, until he punched harder than he had ever done before.
I guess Doomsday >>> every force in the Universe.

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It's hilarious that you brought up speed and it backfired so badly, that you're now moving away from combat speed, going into travel speed, and now you're about to lose that part, too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Heh, so much backtracking.

Originally posted by abhilegend
crylaugh

Is it better than say Silver Surfer who has never taken such a shot? Thanos? Galactus? Living Tribunal?

Holy shit, is Goober arguing that Heimdall is now more durable than Doomsday?

What in the flying f*ck is happening?

Originally posted by darthgoober
If the discussion is whether or not Supes could go lightspeed during the period then him not officially being able do so obviously IS relevant.

Then it's good that it's not that here.

Oh please abhi, no one wants to see you and I go back and forth about Surfer in any scenario that everyone and their dog knows will quickly devolve into you basically saying "NUH UH!" to every point I make. That's why I've decided to take mod advice and not engage you in your ridiculousness. Hell even this convo has nearly run it's course.

I guess you will always run away from me.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No backtracking, I'm still saying what I've been saying.

Yup, it absolutely is better than any blunt force durability feats that those three have shown on panel. A single such feat indicates nothing for a character.

😂

Originally posted by Philosophía
Holy shit, is Goober arguing that Heimdall is now more durable than Doomsday?

What in the flying f*ck is happening?

Originally posted by Philosophía
There is nothing ever specified, or even hinted at, that Doomsday suddenly has split durability against energy and blunt force. "The forum told me!!!" isn't an argument.

You didn't answer any of my questions. Where did Gladiator instantly achieve his top speed within .5 km, which is the distance the fight starts at? And furthermore, when has he employed this tactic [top speed punch], against who, and how successful was it? Up until now, we have Heimdall, and he failed miserably. Anything else? Because your case is really weak. Also, space cheese is irrelevant - you should know that by now, you've read comics for quite a while.

Byrne Superman was capable of punching with such force, that nothing in the Universe could stop it:
http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/SupermanStrengthNoForce.jpg.html
He couldn't do shit to Doomsday, until he punched harder than he had ever done before.
I guess Doomsday >>> every force in the Universe.

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It's hilarious that you brought up speed and it backfired so badly, that you're now moving away from combat speed, going into travel speed, and now you're about to lose that part, too.

Again, I was never made speed out to be the deciding factor in this fight, I simply brought it up as a factor worth considering and then specified that it's relevance would likely depend on how someone typically views speed in regards to forum fights.

You've made wrong turn to CBR then. Or traveled to KMC in 2008.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Holy shit, is Goober arguing that Heimdall is now more durable than Doomsday?

What in the flying f*ck is happening?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wait, you are saying Heimdall is more durable than Surfer and Galactus?

😂
Galactus too apparently.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then it's good that it's not that here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course, nobody wants to see me annihilate you again and again especially you.

I guess you will always run away from me.

Wow! Gladiator has hit near light speed at a few feet from a machine that was going to fire radiation at him.lol. people need to learn about characters before posting.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No Goober's arguing that Heimdell has one durability feat that DD can't match. That doesn't mean that Heimdell is more durable because this forum take more than a single feat into consideration when examining characters.

But that's simply making the most idiotic assumption. Heimdall didn't just become class 500 or Juggernaut. He was still class 60 character who lost to Gladiator in a non speed used fight.

Gladiator has shit striking power is more like it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Forum standards absolutely ARE relevant to discussions that take place on the forum.

Again, I was never made speed out to be the deciding factor in this fight, I simply brought it up as a factor worth considering and then specified that it's relevance would likely depend on how someone typically views speed in regards to forum fights.

What some members of the forum think about some characters has no relevance to Doomsday. You shouldn't have brought up Doomsday's split durability, if you couldn't prove it. You shouldn't have brought up Gladiator's speed advantage, when you couldn't prove it, and then you moved on to travel speed. You shouldn't have brought up Gladiator's travel speed bullrushing when you couldn't prove he can achieve top speed in 0.5 km, when you couldn't show a single example where this was effective, and when the example where he used it [Heimdall] is exactly the opposite of what you're arguing, to the point that you're so backed into a corner, you're almost trying to debate that Heimdall is more durable than Doomsday, but then running away and saying one feat doesn't prove anything.

This is awful.

Originally posted by abhilegend
In Comic portrayals always trumps made up scenarios.

Heimdall isn't even bloodied. "Planets don't hit back".