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Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?
refreshing news today: southern baptists have decided to officially denounce the alt-right (rebranded white nationalism) for the anti-christian values that it represents.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/index.html
The Southern Baptist Convention moved to denounce the "alt-right" white nationalist movement Wednesday, a collective decision that occurred only after pastors pushed back against denominational leaders who initially chose not to address the issue.At their annual meeting, Southern Baptists agreed to a statement decrying "every form of racism, including alt-right white supremacy, as antithetical to the Gospel of Jesus Christ."
Given this development, along with the changing political climate in the UK and Europe; do you feel that this is a sign that the trend of normalizing mainstream racist ideals as "just another opinion" is declining? has the great white-power wave finally broken and proceeded to roll back?
E1
Re: Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
refreshing news today: southern baptists have decided to officially denounce the alt-right (rebranded white nationalism) for the anti-christian values that it represents.http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/index.html
Given this development, along with the changing political climate in the UK and Europe; do you feel that this is a sign that the trend of normalizing mainstream racist ideals as "just another opinion" is declining? has the great white-power wave finally broken and proceeded to roll back?
The alt right has several strains that are united by a distaste for what they consider to be "political correctness." Though they mistake "PC" for "not being a complete ass" and they consider resistance to actual anti-Semitism and racism to be SJW whining or you being a cuck. They're united by a tribal view of Western civilization that says that Western civilization isn't rooted in creed by nationalism and European ethnicity.
Good for the Southern Baptist Convention to denounce the alt right. The alt right oppose the notion of natural God-given individual rights because they simply believe that rights only adhere to the tribe. We need more people denouncing the alt right and BLM and Anitfa and all the tribal groups that have sprung up pushing only identity politics and racist rhetoric.
ROB
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EMP
Re: Re: Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?
Originally posted by ESB -1138
The alt right has several strains that are united by a distaste for what they consider to be "political correctness." Though they mistake "PC" for "not being a complete ass" and they consider resistance to actual anti-Semitism and racism to be SJW whining or you being a cuck. They're united by a tribal view of Western civilization that says that Western civilization isn't rooted in creed by nationalism and European ethnicity.Good for the Southern Baptist Convention to denounce the alt right. The alt right oppose the notion of natural God-given individual rights because they simply believe that rights only adhere to the tribe. We need more people denouncing the alt right and BLM and Anitfa and all the tribal groups that have sprung up pushing only identity politics and racist rhetoric.
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Completely agree with everything you said here. I'm non-denominational rather than Southern Baptist but I'm happy to see fellow Christians, or just fellow human beings in general denouncing this bullshit, and I also agree that the problem of racism extends beyond white nationalism into the anti-white rhetoric of people with far too much social influence and that they should also disappear, and that racially divisive identity politics needs to die and has no place in modern political discussion in the western world.
Particularly I agree with the part where you brought up the dichotomy of individualism vs collectivism, since my belief is that a just and legitimately progressive egalitarian society is best achieved by every human being having the same universal rights and the preservation of the rights of the individual above all else because by preserving the rights of the individual, you preserve the rights of everyone. Collectivism disgusts me because it leads to a violation of individual rights for the actual or perceived benefit of a group whose rights supersede those of the individual. I've found that even though I'm left-leaning I have more respect for individualist political ideologies, such as liberalism, libertarianism, and some conservatism (such as Ben Shapiro), over collectivist ones such as fascism, nazism, communism, neo-progressivism (SJWs), the alt-right, and pretty much anything to do with identity politics.
SZ
Re: Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
refreshing news today: southern baptists have decided to officially denounce the alt-right (rebranded white nationalism) for the anti-christian values that it represents.http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/index.html
Given this development, along with the changing political climate in the UK and Europe; do you feel that this is a sign that the trend of normalizing mainstream racist ideals as "just another opinion" is declining? has the great white-power wave finally broken and proceeded to roll back?
One can hope the "just another opinion" people go quiet and are ashamed of that "opinion" again as in the eighties and nineties and even the early noughties. I do believe that "other" opinion never goes away and if you scratch beneath the surface of many Conservatives, a full blown prejudiced bigot lies beneath.
ADA
Re: Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
refreshing news today: southern baptists have decided to officially denounce the alt-right (rebranded white nationalism) for the anti-christian values that it represents.http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/index.html
Too bad it was a total shit show: A Resolution Condemning White Supremacy Causes Chaos at the Southern Baptist Convention