Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?

Started by Bashar Teg14 pages

Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?

refreshing news today: southern baptists have decided to officially denounce the alt-right (rebranded white nationalism) for the anti-christian values that it represents.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/index.html

The Southern Baptist Convention moved to denounce the "alt-right" white nationalist movement Wednesday, a collective decision that occurred only after pastors pushed back against denominational leaders who initially chose not to address the issue.

At their annual meeting, Southern Baptists agreed to a statement decrying "every form of racism, including alt-right white supremacy, as antithetical to the Gospel of Jesus Christ."

Given this development, along with the changing political climate in the UK and Europe; do you feel that this is a sign that the trend of normalizing mainstream racist ideals as "just another opinion" is declining? has the great white-power wave finally broken and proceeded to roll back?

Bravo for those Southern Baptist 👆

And I do hope so, was rather odd to see that mentality come to the front as being acceptable/normal in 2015/16

Re: Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
refreshing news today: southern baptists have decided to officially denounce the alt-right (rebranded white nationalism) for the anti-christian values that it represents.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/index.html

Given this development, along with the changing political climate in the UK and Europe; do you feel that this is a sign that the trend of normalizing mainstream racist ideals as "just another opinion" is declining? has the great white-power wave finally broken and proceeded to roll back?

The alt right has several strains that are united by a distaste for what they consider to be "political correctness." Though they mistake "PC" for "not being a complete ass" and they consider resistance to actual anti-Semitism and racism to be SJW whining or you being a cuck. They're united by a tribal view of Western civilization that says that Western civilization isn't rooted in creed by nationalism and European ethnicity.

Good for the Southern Baptist Convention to denounce the alt right. The alt right oppose the notion of natural God-given individual rights because they simply believe that rights only adhere to the tribe. We need more people denouncing the alt right and BLM and Anitfa and all the tribal groups that have sprung up pushing only identity politics and racist rhetoric.

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Ben Shapiro?

Re: Re: Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
The alt right has several strains that are united by a distaste for what they consider to be "political correctness." Though they mistake "PC" for "not being a complete ass" and they consider resistance to actual anti-Semitism and racism to be SJW whining or you being a cuck. They're united by a tribal view of Western civilization that says that Western civilization isn't rooted in creed by nationalism and European ethnicity.

Good for the Southern Baptist Convention to denounce the alt right. The alt right oppose the notion of natural God-given individual rights because they simply believe that rights only adhere to the tribe. We need more people denouncing the alt right and BLM and Anitfa and all the tribal groups that have sprung up pushing only identity politics and racist rhetoric.


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Completely agree with everything you said here. I'm non-denominational rather than Southern Baptist but I'm happy to see fellow Christians, or just fellow human beings in general denouncing this bullshit, and I also agree that the problem of racism extends beyond white nationalism into the anti-white rhetoric of people with far too much social influence and that they should also disappear, and that racially divisive identity politics needs to die and has no place in modern political discussion in the western world.

Particularly I agree with the part where you brought up the dichotomy of individualism vs collectivism, since my belief is that a just and legitimately progressive egalitarian society is best achieved by every human being having the same universal rights and the preservation of the rights of the individual above all else because by preserving the rights of the individual, you preserve the rights of everyone. Collectivism disgusts me because it leads to a violation of individual rights for the actual or perceived benefit of a group whose rights supersede those of the individual. I've found that even though I'm left-leaning I have more respect for individualist political ideologies, such as liberalism, libertarianism, and some conservatism (such as Ben Shapiro), over collectivist ones such as fascism, nazism, communism, neo-progressivism (SJWs), the alt-right, and pretty much anything to do with identity politics.

Re: Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
refreshing news today: southern baptists have decided to officially denounce the alt-right (rebranded white nationalism) for the anti-christian values that it represents.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/index.html

Given this development, along with the changing political climate in the UK and Europe; do you feel that this is a sign that the trend of normalizing mainstream racist ideals as "just another opinion" is declining? has the great white-power wave finally broken and proceeded to roll back?

One can hope the "just another opinion" people go quiet and are ashamed of that "opinion" again as in the eighties and nineties and even the early noughties. I do believe that "other" opinion never goes away and if you scratch beneath the surface of many Conservatives, a full blown prejudiced bigot lies beneath.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
One can hope the "just another opinion" people go quiet and are ashamed of that "opinion" again as in the eighties and nineties and even the early noughties. I do believe that "other" opinion never goes away and if you scratch beneath the surface of [B]many Conservatives, a full blown prejudiced bigot lies beneath. [/B]

Thumbs up for exhibiting bigotry whilst calling others bigots 👆

Local alt-righter Surturd starting to feel oppressed. 🙁

expected. oh well. it was fun to at least have a half page of rational discourse. thank you all.

Originally posted by Surtur
Thumbs up for exhibiting bigotry whilst calling others bigots 👆

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99s19HBs-6A

Re: Are we seeing an end to the normalization of white nationalism?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
refreshing news today: southern baptists have decided to officially denounce the alt-right (rebranded white nationalism) for the anti-christian values that it represents.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/index.html

Too bad it was a total shit show: A Resolution Condemning White Supremacy Causes Chaos at the Southern Baptist Convention

baby steps, i guess

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Local alt-righter Surturd starting to feel oppressed. 🙁

How dare I point out the bigotry of someone else.

It's almost as if one shouldn't act bigoted while labeling others as bigots.

alright man, keep weepin.

what did you expect? it's friday.

#ThankGodItsTriggerDay

Originally posted by Beniboybling
alright man, keep weepin.

Pointing out bigotry is weeping? But then this means Steve was weeping.

so you encourage assaulting anti-fascists, but we should be concerned that we might hurt the nazis' little feefees? how expected. 🤪

Originally posted by Surtur

Anyone who is like me and loves seeing these pussies in Antifa get wailed on will enjoy this:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=16229224&highlight=antifa+userid%3A115806#post16229224

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
so you encourage assaulting anti-fascists, but we should be concerned that we might hurt the nazis' little feefees? how expected. 🤪

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=16229224&highlight=antifa+userid%3A115806#post16229224

Lmao, who said be concerned over a nazis feelings? What was said was don't act bigoted whilst whining about the bigotry of others.

Did you truly feel this was clever enough to warrant posting in different threads?

Originally posted by Surtur

Did you truly feel this was clever enough to warrant posting in different threads?

considering your compulsion to derail any thread relating to the alt-right with accusations of bigotry, yes absolutely that warranted my double-post. 👆

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
considering your compulsion to derail any thread relating to the alt-right with accusations of bigotry, yes absolutely that warranted my double-post. 👆

Lmao, for someone who seemed to be hoping for "rational discourse" I don't know where bigotry enters into rational discourse?

Since to note, your pal said this:

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
One can hope the "just another opinion" people go quiet and are ashamed of that "opinion" again as in the eighties and nineties and even the early noughties. I do believe that "other" opinion never goes away and if you scratch beneath the surface of [B]many Conservatives, a full blown prejudiced bigot lies beneath. [/B]

If you wanna talk about nazi's that is fine, go ahead. But the bigotry of "beneath the surface of many conservatives are full blown prejudiced bigots" is not going to lead you down the path to rational discourse lol. Mostly because there is no rationality there to be found.

You still haven't even explained how calling out the bigotry of this statement equates to caring about the feelings of nazis. Unless you feel a majority of conservatives are also nazis or something.