How the arguments have devolved.
Okay okay, perhaps novel blurbs written by publishers are subjective
Okay, perhaps Plagueis wasn't having a tug of war with the Force and winning
BUT HE BELIEVES HE HAS THE WILLPOWER TO DO ANYTHING HE WANTS. IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT HERE IN BLACK & WHITE, FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE.
It would be more believable if he didn't die.
Originally posted by MythLord
You Muslims are the reason nobody takes Asia srsly.
It's why my fellow Pinoy and Pinay and Pinheads are so underestimated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z34ao_JW-Mk&feature=youtu.be&t=1357
Originally posted by Kjam
How the arguments have devolved.Okay okay, perhaps novel blurbs written by publishers are subjective
Okay, perhaps Plagueis wasn't having a tug of war with the Force and winning
BUT HE BELIEVES HE HAS THE WILLPOWER TO DO ANYTHING HE WANTS. IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT HERE IN BLACK & WHITE, FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE.
It would be more believable if he didn't die.
Originally posted by AncientPower
It makes an enormous difference actually, most if not all arguments were predicated on Plagueis > Valkorion scaling via that quote, but now that's all down the drain. Now the argument has to be made via feats, which would be most humorous.
Though now we have apparently that Vitiate had all the power he had as Valk all the way back in the Revan novel....and Revan was a legitimate threat to him?
It's claimed that he's a threat, but in actual practice he was being dominated by Vitiate in a Force exchange and required having his life saved twice.
But no, Vitiate was constantly growing in power, draining hundreds of powerful beings-Revan included-, before he even had the Ziost power growth, which is by all means a more powerful source than Nathema was.
Originally posted by AncientPower
It's claimed that he's a threat, but in actual practice he was being dominated by Vitiate in a Force exchange and required having his life saved twice.But no, Vitiate was constantly growing in power, draining hundreds of powerful beings-Revan included-, before he even had the Ziost power growth, which is by all means a more powerful source than Nathema was.
Yet it's noted, that even as of the novel he was as powerful as he was when the whole Ziost incident came around.
"The events of Shadow of Revan give him the boost he needs to become active again."
"For this, we just have to look at the last person who ever stood up to Vitiate at anywhere near the level that the player's character did on Ziost: Revan. When Revan took a crack at him, Vitiate locked him up for centuries, picking and prodding at his mind the entire time. So we know that Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion doesn't destroy people who are a legitimate threat to him; he's fascinated by them. "
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=9347029#edit9347029
Unless I'm not really getting it, he was doing this whole Zakuul thing even before the game or novel even takes place.
Neither of which say Novel!Vitiate is as powerful as Valkorion. Boyd says Shadow of Revan's events replenished the power he had lost upon dying at the hands of the Wrath and then the Hero of Tython.
Further more, he states Revan is the only other person who ever stood up to him at nearly the degree that the Hotlander did on Ziost. I.E the only other person he couldn't just swat.
You're reading into it too much.