Basically, what dictates your ability to use the Force is your baseline willpower
which perfectly embodies the kind of dominance he achieved over the Force
No counterforce had risen against them.
-- Darth Plagueis
anticipating that their own midi-chlorians, the Force’s proxy army, might marshal to boil their blood or stop the beating of their hearts
-- Darth Plagueis
so manipulating them would be the equivalent of manipualting the will of the Force
once more showing how he could defy the Force's will and dominate it.
The Force grew silent, as if in flight from him, and many of the animals in his laboratory succumbed to horrifying diseases.
--Darth Plagueis
The ability to dominate death had been a step in the right direction, but it wasn’t equivalent to pure creation. And so he had stretched out—indeed, as if invisible, transubstantiated—to inform every being of his existence, and impact all of them: Muunoid or insectoid, secure or dispossessed, free or enslaved. A warrior waving a banner in triumph on a battlefield. A ghost infiltrating a dream. But ultimately to no end.
--Darth Plagueis
He remained convinced that he was going to succeed though, and in the end, he did; though he didn't create it - the Force did as a result of his defiance of its will, not his dominance over it.
In the end, it could be said that midi-chlorians weren't executing the Force's will; they were executing Plagueis' will.
I'm just going to post this irrelevant link because I might be high (no it isn't on weed, I don't even know where to find weed):
Slayne is correct, Plagueis did not defeat the Force in a battle of wills, which did not attempt to thwart their efforts to influence it. Obviously the idea that any being could be strong enough to overpower the Force itself is absurd, and would make Shitiate appear a protozoa in comparison. However he forgets that despite that, Plagueis and his apprentice were nonetheless successful in suffusing the entire galaxy with the dark side through use of their own faculties, and disrupted the Jedi's ability to use the Force in the process:
The shift had been the outcome of months of intense meditation, during which Plagueis and Sidious had sought to challenge the Force for sovereignty and suffuse the galaxy with the power of the dark side.[...]
In what amounted to a state of rapture they knew that the Force had yielded, as if some deity had been tipped from its throne. On the fulcrum they had fashioned, the light side had dipped and the dark side had ascended.
Yoda and the rest of the Council members will double their meditation sessions in an effort to peer into the future, only to discover it clouded and unknowable. Only to discover that complacency has opened the door to catastrophe.Which, considering the immensity of cosmic energy they'd had to have influenced to perform such a feat, would have required an equally immense amount of will, regardless of whether the Force itself tried to intervene. Moreso when you consider that the Jedi had erected a galaxy spanning Force bubble to prevent against this kind of influence:
Where an extremely low midi-chlorian count might have bolstered the odds of survival, nature had instead made the ysalimir species strong in the Force. So strong, in fact, that several of the creatures acting in concert could create a Force bubble encompassing kilometers rather than meters. In a sense, the Jedi Order had done the same on a galactic scale, Plagueis believed, by bathing the galaxy in the energy of the light side of the Force; or more accurately by fashioning a Force bubble that had prevented infiltration by the dark sideFYI, this bubble was, conceivably by their actions, utterly destroyed:
To be sure, the light had been extinguished, but for how long and at what cost?And yes, as a result, Plagueis achieved a god-like scope of abilities, including the ability to stretch his presence across the breadth of the galaxy to announce himself to every living thing in local existence:
And so he had stretched out--indeed, as if invisible, transubstantiated---to inform every being of his existence, and impact all of them: Muunoid or insectoid, secure or dispossessed, free or enslaved. A warrior waving a banner in triumph on a battlefield. A ghost infiltrating a dream.And achieved unprecedented mastery over life and death besides, which yes, caused the Force to spawn a practical demi-god in retaliation.
Naturally, ninnies like Jackie-boy consistently fail to register this (along with spouting baseless silliness that the Force actually assisted them in their efforts), but that's the Turks for you. 🙁
Finally, Azronger is also correct in stating that will directly correlates with the ability to use the Force. Palpatine years later, detailing how through a technique combining will with anger, he could unlock immense hidden energies within himself:
Plagueis reaching a similar breakthrough regarding the use of will, through which he was confident anything was achievable:
But Plagueis now understood that Tenebrous had been wrong about sorcery, as he had been wrong about so many things. Yes, the gift was strongest in those who, with scant effort, could allow themselves to be subsumed by the currents of the Force and become conduits for the powers of the dark side. But there was an alternative path to those abilities, and it led from a place where the circle closed on itself and sheer will substituted for selflessness. Plagueis understood, too, that there were no powers beyond his reach; none he couldn't master through an effort of will. If a Sith of equal power had preceded him, then that one had taken his or her secrets to the grave, or had locked them away in holocrons that had been destroyed or had yet to surface.We only needing imagine what a galactonic level of willpower - the driving catalyst behind Palpatine's dark side storms - could achieve if applied to use of the Force, and it > Valkorion. 👆
Yeah, but some jokes can be hurtful, but then again, 2 Ethiopians and a Somolian have had beef with me for 2 weeks because I broke their hot dog in half when I was bored and annoyed at the fact that they want to be friends with me.
They challenged me to a race as a way to settle the beef, but I cheated by running in the opposite direction, 'cause bum unneccassry movement.
Originally posted by Kjam
Arguing with Plagueis fans is like arguing with new feminists.Hego's Fanbridge : butt.. buttt.. Plagueis fought a battle of wills against the Force, and won!
No, the Force allowed itself to be tipped. Possibly joning in the process itself. Just like men allowed women suffragettes to have the vote.
lmao shut the f*ck up, male.
Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
Yeah, but some jokes can be hurtful, but then again, 2 Ethiopians and a Somolian have had beef with me for 2 weeks because I broke their hot dog in half when I was bored and annoyed at the fact that they want to be friends with me.They challenged me to a race as a way to settle the beef, but I cheated by running in the opposite direction, 'cause bum unneccassry movement.
WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH ANY PERTAINING TO THE THREAD!?