Carver actually made a good point about this before
Originally posted by Carver9
I always assumed it was just the magical qualities that he was immune to but it still carried the same force without it, just not that extra pizzazz. We've seen Zauriel hurt him for example with a punch.Otherwise that leaves room for some no limit fallacies. For example:
Prime can't survive a multiverse being dropped on his domepiece, but he could if it was magic?
Carver could go on and on about this but Carver has to shave his chocolate legs right now.
Hard to say.
Black Adam didnt have much success pounding on Prime with his magic fists. For the most part when I see something of magic in nature trying to get a desired effect on prime, it just doesnt work.
So to answer, I assume the physical component of Mjolnir would do its job, it's still a chunk of uru after all, being swung by an elite strongman. But anything else, any magic component to it like the lightning around it would be next to useless.
Similarly with Wonder Woman I guess. Like her sword wouldn't cut him, but her punches would probably tickle a bit.
Originally posted by Damborgsonwould that also not apply to Black Adams fists
Hard to say.Black Adam didnt have much success pounding on Prime with his magic fists. For the most part when I see something of magic in nature trying to get a desired effect on prime, it just doesnt work.
So to answer, I assume the physical component of Mjolnir would do its job, it's still a chunk of uru after all, being swung by an elite strongman. But anything else, any magic component to it like the lightning around it would be next to useless.
Similarly with Wonder Woman I guess. Like her sword wouldn't cut him, but her punches would probably tickle a bit.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I see it as Superman's vulnerability to magic, but in the mirror.
So being immune to magic....If Strange (for example) made a rock out of thin air, by magic.. .and asked Hulk to throw it, would it not affect him? Extrapolate this to WW,who is magical clay.....
If Thor smashed Mjolnir down with all his might on SBP (who stood there), would it just bounce off him?
Prime is immune to actual magic [i.e. magical blast/spells etc.], while Superman is weak to specifically that. But objects which are made of magic but not have a magical output hurt him [while Superman is not weak against them].
So, while Superman is weak against magical lightning, he is not weak against Black Adam/Shazam's punches itself [but the magical lightning around them]. While Prime is immune to the magical lightning the punches are charged with, but not the actual punch itself.
Or, to make it simpler, substitute magic with transmutation. Say, Prime is immune to transmutation, but he's not immune to a knife created by transmutation [unless the knife has a magical spell allowing it to cut stuff].
If that makes sense...
Originally posted by Damborgson
Hard to say.Black Adam didnt have much success pounding on Prime with his magic fists. For the most part when I see something of magic in nature trying to get a desired effect on prime, it just doesnt work.
So to answer, I assume the physical component of Mjolnir would do its job, it's still a chunk of uru after all, being swung by an elite strongman. But anything else, any magic component to it like the lightning around it would be next to useless.
Similarly with Wonder Woman I guess. Like her sword wouldn't cut him, but her punches would probably tickle a bit.
So here...I mean, the Destroyer is still pretty strong. And made of uru.
So it should still phuck him up, no?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So here...I mean, the Destroyer is still pretty strong. And made of uru.So it should still phuck him up, no?
If the destroyer punched prime, especially with a strong host, it would without a doubt make an impression on Prime.
But his disintergration ray would be no sold.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So here...I mean, the Destroyer is still pretty strong. And made of uru.So it should still phuck him up, no?
He also flew right into Anti Monitors antimatter body and tanked an experienced Ion, and all the Guardians.
If he was a Decepticon, his bio would read "Superboy Prime has no known weaknesses".
Like Megatrons bio, or Predaking.
Originally posted by carver9
I thought that sun suit Prime had on always fed him energy? If that was the case, why would we even look at the showing against Adam as a norm? Also, Adam made him scream out in pain with the first punch.
The comic outright says the suit was to bring his strength back to par, after the imprisonment in the speed force.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So here...I mean, the Destroyer is still pretty strong. And made of uru.So it should still phuck him up, no?
i guess it depends on how strong you see the destroyer. stronger than thor? i think that has been established over the years. how MUCH stronger? it was shown to be far stronger than hulk when maestro inhabited the suit. what impact would repeated disintegration rays have?
i'd say classic destroyer would likely be able to win. taking in all the recent showings (and yeah the mangog showing did strike me as being not especially good...) i might lean to prime. i still think a case can be made for both.
this would make for a very fun bz imo.