sb prime vs destroyer

Originally posted by carver9
He was nearly whole due to him being weakened before facing the heroes. The suit was replenishing his power which is the reason he was almost fully powered. If it wasnt for the suit, he would have still been depleted. You're reading the scan completely wrong and you are helping my argument. Then, like I've said before, the suits are not the same. You are posting a completely different armor.

It was replenishing his power, true, no one disputed that, which you would know if you weren't an idiot carver.

What does the word replenish mean again?

re·plen·ish
/rəˈpleniSH/Submit
verb
fill (something) up again.
"he replenished Justin's glass with mineral water"

Right right... it means to fill something up. Not to overflow it, which would be what an amp would be. Glad you agree. 👆

I'll cop up to one semantic mistake on my part, my stating the suit is the opposite of an amp is technically inaccurate. It is more accurate to say that he is generally operating at less than full capacity if relying on just the suit for solar energy.

How am I helping your argument? You have yet to provide any reasoning or scans supporting the claim that the suit increases SBP's power beyond his normal levels. You keep whining about it being a different suit without explaining why this one is weaker than the prior one.

I'll make this clear, because apparently you are too dumb to get this without it being explicitly stated in words simple enough for you to understand my friend: Superboy Prime needed the suit because he hadn't fed on yellow sunlight for over a year, both in Infinite Crisis and Sinestro Corps War. It replenished his empty reserves and gave him his superpowers back. It did not enhance his powers beyond their normal limits.

There is not a single scan supporting that assertion. Unless you can provide one?

Originally posted by abhilegend
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He is not at full power when wearing the armor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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He is not at full power when wearing the armor.

When is he at full power?

Originally posted by NemeBro
In Sinestro Corps War he definitely wasn't. Infinite Crisis, who can say? Though he had been wearing the suit for quite a bit longer in SCW than in IC IIRC.

Why is he wearing the suit?

been here for 14 years, still stupid as fuk, just pick up a comic dude

I get what you're saying Carv.

If Prime has a suit that's feeding him sunlight, and he's already at normal levels, then anything that suit feeds him is surplus and therefore, an amp.

I just dont think that was the intention behind him wearing the suit is all. After all, he came off as noticeably better without it in SCW. Just from natural sunlight.

Originally posted by MrMind
been here for 14 years, still stupid as fuk, just pick up a comic dude

Please go sit in the corner.

Prime.

Originally posted by carver9
Why is he wearing the suit?

Just so we're clear, I am leaning towards you being a retard. 👆

You're right on point Damborgson. What I am simply saying is, if something is consistently feeding you your power source, we have to factor that into the scenario. This is a simple concept. Would he have performed just as good if the suit wasnt a factor. Even in the scan Nemebro posted, he was near his full power due to the suit and once the sun came out, it filled in that missing piece that he needed to take him to his full power.

This is why people consistently tried to take the suit off of him, they knew it was helping him. He even cries here when he realize he lost his powers.

"My powers are gone. Taking me through the that red sun DESTROYED MY ARMOR". He is literally admitting the armor is a factor on his power level...

https://m.imgur.com/a/9YrML

Originally posted by carver9
Even in the scan Nemebro posted, he was near his full power due to the suit and once the sun came out, it filled in that missing piece that he needed to take him to his full power.

You really shot yourself in the foot here friend. You just agreed and conceded to my stance. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
So you're saying that while wearing the suit he was at less than full power and that once the sun touched him only then did he gain all of it?

You really shot yourself in the foot here friend. You just agreed and conceded to my stance. 👆

I don't think you are reading my posts. What I said was, he was near depleted of his power. The suit brought him close to his full power PER PRIME ADMISSION. The suit was torn off of him before getting him to full power. The sun came out and completed the process. This is simple. You're purposely making this difficult. Again, the suit played a factor. Prime admitted this, the heroes admitted this which is the reason I am telling you that any fights with him having the armor on imo is irrelevant. The armor was a plot... it helped him which is the reason he cried when it was gone.

Forum rules state full capacity.

So his feats with suit are of him weakened.

Not sure why we can't use their showings

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think you are reading my posts.

Whereas I know that you're not reading mine.

What I said was, he was near depleted of his power.

Go on.

The suit brought him close to his full power PER PRIME ADMISSION.

So you're saying that the suit didn't bring him above his normal power level? I accept your concession.

The suit was torn off of him before getting him to full power.

Go on.

The sun came out and completed the process.

Go on.

This is simple. You're purposely making this difficult.

Sorry, I'll try to dumb my posts down for you.

Again, the suit played a factor.

Go on.

Prime admitted this, the heroes admitted this which is the reason I am telling you that any fights with him having the armor on imo is irrelevant.

Based on?

The armor was a plot... it helped him which is the reason he cried when it was gone.

So when are you going to post any evidence that the suit has ever amped him?

The suit helped. My argument is, IT HELPED. Here he realize his powers are gone and blame it on the armor being removed...

https://m.imgur.com/a/9YrML

If the red sun didnt remove the armor, he still would have been at full power. What does this mean, the armor helped.

Also, the heroes here even admits that the armor protects him from effects they were trying to attack him with and again, they try to remove it.

https://m.imgur.com/a/baV3h
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The armor played a part. Sorry to tell you this but it did.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Forum rules state full capacity.

So his feats with suit are of him weakened.

Not sure why we can't use their showings

Wait a minute... so this Prime is weakened? The one in this scan...

https://m.imgur.com/bl9NQkv

Originally posted by carver9
The suit helped. My argument is, IT HELPED. Here he realize his powers are gone and blame it on the armor being removed...

https://m.imgur.com/a/9YrML

If the red sun didnt remove the armor, he still would have been at full power. What does this mean, the armor helped.

Also, the heroes here even admits that the armor protects him from effects they were trying to attack him with and again, they try to remove it.

https://m.imgur.com/a/baV3h
2.

The armor played a part. Sorry to tell you this but it did.

Originally posted by NemeBro
In Sinestro Corps War he definitely wasn't. Infinite Crisis, who can say? Though he had been wearing the suit for quite a bit longer in SCW than in IC IIRC.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute... so this Prime is weakened? The one in this scan...

https://m.imgur.com/bl9NQkv

It's a simple question, Carver.

Was he at 100% when he did his feats with the suit. Simple as.

Was he at 110%? 95%? What was the suit's purpose?

It's just like Tony's arc reactor, stopping the shrapnel from reaching his heart. Once it's removed, he drops down to 0% (i.e. he dies, but extreme though). The reactor itself doesn't amp Stark though (his armour does). Bit of a broken analogy, I admit, lol.

Once SBPs suit is removed, he drops drown to his depowered level.

But with it, he's at 100% (or 90%, whatever). Point being, he's not being amped.

However, that's moot. In a forum match, he's at 100%. so at the very least, he's at his suit levels. Assuming he's not amped by the suit of course, which we're all still waiting on proof for.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute... so this Prime is weakened? The one in this scan...

https://m.imgur.com/bl9NQkv