Originally posted by carver9Don't throw in the towel yet carv. I THINK I see what u r trying to say.
Wait a minute... so this Prime is weakened? The one in this scan...
Originally posted by NemeBro
That's nice and all, but you might want to get around to proving the claim being disputed; that the armour amped him beyond the level he would be at under a yellow sun.
I'm going to say this again until it stick into your skull. WHO...SAID...ANYTHING ABOUT...AMPING? I said that the armor played a role in his fights. A great example of this is Juggernaut helmet. With or without it on he is still just as strong, just as fast and durable but his helmet plays a role in his fight (hell, his armor does). If he fought Jean Grey with and without the helmet on and outright massacred her with the helmet on and still destroyed her with it off, the more impressive showing would be him beating her without his armor on because we know his helmet plays a role in his combat showings. It's not about amping him, it's about him continuously being fed solar energy which means while fighting him, he will always be at his prime. Especially since we know solar energy heals kryptonians. Beating on him, choking him, etc... means NOTHING if he is continuously getting fed power. An example of this is when he was fighting the heroes, bleeding, crying (AFTER the armor was peeled off of him) and a touch of yellow Ray's touched him and he is healed instantly.
He even admits that his power is gone and the armor is basically the reason why. He doesnt sub stain wear and tear while the armor is on which is the reason people first option is to remove it. They even tell us that they cant hurt him with red energy due to the armor. It's like trying to use kryptonite on Superman while he is in the sun. Black Adam punching him while he is continuously being fed sun light makes the showing irrelevant.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to say this again until it stick into your skull. WHO...SAID...ANYTHING ABOUT...AMPING? I said that the armor played a role in his fights. A great example of this is Juggernaut helmet. With or without it on he is still just as strong, just as fast and durable but his helmet plays a role in his fight (hell, his armor does). If he fought Jean Grey with and without the helmet on and outright massacred her with the helmet on and still destroyed her with it off, the more impressive showing would be him beating her without his armor on because we know his helmet plays a role in his combat showings. It's not about amping him, it's about him continuously being fed solar energy which means while fighting him, he will always be at his prime. Especially since we know solar energy heals kryptonians. Beating on him, choking him, etc... means NOTHING if he is continuously getting fed power. An example of this is when he was fighting the heroes, bleeding, crying (AFTER the armor was peeled off of him) and a touch of yellow Ray's touched him and he is healed instantly.He even admits that his power is gone and the armor is basically the reason why. He doesnt sub stain wear and tear while the armor is on which is the reason people first option is to remove it. They even tell us that they cant hurt him with red energy due to the armor. It's like trying to use kryptonite on Superman while he is in the sun. Black Adam punching him while he is continuously being fed sun light makes the showing irrelevant.
So basically, you had no point lol.
Forum rules mean he's always at full capacity. So starts in his prime.
And will be continuously fighting at full capacity, as nothing in the OP means it's at night or whatever. So he'll always be in the sun.
Unless of course you meant that it's a long drawn out fight where his solar reserves would eventually deplete, and there's no sun.....lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So basically, you had no point lol.Forum rules mean he's always at full capacity. So starts in his prime.
And will be continuously fighting at full capacity, as nothing in the OP means it's at night or whatever. So he'll always be in the sun.
Unless of course you meant that it's a long drawn out fight where his solar reserves would eventually deplete, and there's no sun.....lol.
Honestly, I dont even know what you are talking about? Unless you're saying without the armor, he has an aura around him that's continuously feeding him energy?
Your post doesnt apply to anything I've said. Are you drunk?
Originally posted by carver9
Honestly, I dont even know what you are talking about? Unless you're saying without the armor, he has an aura around him that's continuously feeding him energy?Your post doesnt apply to anything I've said. Are you drunk?
Full capacity rule. Battlefield rule.
Also, all characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency
So according to you, the suit keeps him at optimum levels.
Ok.
According to you, we can't take his showings against BA into account, because he was continually being kept at optimum levels.
Ok.
According to forum rules, he's at optimum levels.
GG.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Full capacity rule. Battlefield rule.So according to you, the suit keeps him at optimum levels.
Ok.
According to you, we can't take his showings against BA into account, because he was continually being kept at optimum levels.
Ok.
According to forum rules, he's at optimum levels.
GG.
Him having his suit and him not having it produce different results. I'm not explaining what those results are again. Read though my previous posts.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to say this again until it stick into your skull. WHO...SAID...ANYTHING ABOUT...AMPING?
Originally posted by carver9
I thought that sun suit Prime had on always fed him energy? If that was the case, why would we even look at the showing against Adam as a norm?
Smh.
Carver Prime had 100 struggling neurons, until h1 tapped into the dumb force, and hit him hard enough to kill 50 of them.
It takes Carver about a week to regrow a neuron and he couldn't have that. So he went into his old-man-Carver armory and donned the Neuron Helmet. This helmet allows him to accelerate the growth to 7 neurons a week.
Overconfident with his helmet on, Carver went to confront h1 again, thinking that a helmet that supplies him a neuron daily while he's down to 50, actually makes him superior to having 100 neurons from the start.
H1 hit him again, breaking the helmet, and putting him down to 10 neurons.
And this is the carver we see today.
Damborgson, first I want to point out, the two posts you quoted, where am I saying it is an amp? Read what I said. 2nd question, Prime having on the suit or not having it on, is there a difference? Why do you think Prime always had the suit on unless it was ripped off? Do you think he needed the suit and do you think it made a difference? If your answer is no, why did he wear it if there was no need for it? If it didnt make a difference?
Originally posted by carver9
Damborgson, first I want to point out, the two posts you quoted, where am I saying it is an amp? Read what I said. 2nd question, Prime having on the suit or not having it on, is there a difference? Why do you think Prime always had the suit on unless it was ripped off? Do you think he needed the suit and do you think it made a difference? If your answer is no, why did he wear it if there was no need for it? If it didnt make a difference?
He wore it to bring him up to his prime levels.
Like having an IV drip feed when you're dehydrated.
In forum fights, however, he is at optimum levels. So he would be at least at the level of his suited form, if not better.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He wore it to bring him up to his prime levels.Like having an IV drip feed when you're dehydrated.
In forum fights, however, he is at optimum levels. So he would be at least at the level of his suited form, if not better.
He was outside of space with the suit on before engaging the heroes. The sun was beaming directly on him. What need was it for the suit?
Originally posted by carver9
He was outside of space with the suit on before engaging the heroes. The sun was beaming directly on him. What need was it for the suit?
He had been trapped for years without sun. YEARS.
Besides, like you keep saying, it was not an amp (see, I read your posts). So all it did was pump him up to 100%.
Forum rules means he starts at 100% 🙂
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He had been trapped for years without sun. YEARS.Besides, like you keep saying, it was not an amp (see, I read your posts). So all it did was pump him up to 100%.
Forum rules means he starts at 100% 🙂
And was still feeding him solar energy while being attacked. Solar energy for kryptonians HEAL them which means engaging him in combat while having a suit on that is continuously feeding him energy that heals whatever wounds that he endure is pointless.
How are you not getting this? Solar energy heals him. The suit feeds him solar energy. Without the suit, the energy isnt being fed to him which means that the injuries he sustain STICKS. It's like trying to beat Hulk in a fist fight while he is continuously being pumped with gamma radiation.