Originally posted by NemeBro
It matters because if Oberyn could have indeed feebed the Mountain at any point of the fight and chose not to it would make his overall fighting prowess significantly more impressive.
Which is exactly what he did. Otherwise, why continue to walk around when your opponent was already down when you could follow up with an attack?
Oberyn had some close calls, there's no reason to believe he was 100% in control of the fight and could have ended it with a simple stab to the eye at his whim.
iirc, Even in the book he dictated the fight mostly, but he had to be on constant edge cos one missed step and the Mountain would have literally cut him in twain.
Originally posted by FrothByteNo it isn't. He only lowered his guard after he believed the Mountain was incapacitated. The idea that he was not even trying and could have ended the fight at any point during the fight proper is pure fiction with literally no evidence beyond everyone claiming that's man-crush on him.
Which is exactly what he did. Otherwise, why continue to walk around when your opponent was already down when you could follow up with an attack?
Originally posted by Robtard
Oberyn had some close calls, there's no reason to believe he was 100% in control of the fight and could have ended it with a simple stab to the eye at his whim.iirc, Even in the book he dictated the fight mostly, but he had to be on constant edge cos one missed step and the Mountain would have literally cut him in twain.
Oh I agree. It's not like he was toying with Gregor or anything. Still as seen in the fight, there were a number of times he could have pushed his advantage but instead chose to mock and talk to Gregor.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No it isn't. He only lowered his guard after he believed the Mountain was incapacitated. The idea that he was not even trying and could have ended the fight at any point during the fight proper is pure fiction with literally no evidence beyond everyone claiming that's man-crush on him.
Now where did I say he wasn't even trying? Gregor is a dangerous combatant that he needed to take seriously. Doesn't change the fact that Oberyn had multiple chances to push his advantage but instead chose to mock and taunt Gregor.
Where does this idea that Baleman and the Mountain are even comparable come from? The Mountain is just a big brute, Baleman has taken on dozens of armed men with his bare hands and won.
There's no reason to believe that Oberyn's near-victory over the Mountain (which he cheated for, by the way) is anywhere near as impressive.
While I don't think Martell considered Clegane a walk in the park, it was very clear Oberyn was not trying to kill him. Had he been going for the kill right away we might have seen a different fight.
On topic:
1. Martell - More skilled
2. Depends on if Bruce decides to use his stealth here or fight straight up
3. I think Bruce is more capable of taking advantage of a chaotic environment like a battlefield than Oberyn
Originally posted by juggerman
While I don't think Martell considered Clegane a walk in the park, it was very clear Oberyn was not trying to kill him. Had he been going for the kill right away we might have seen a different fight.On topic:
1. Martell - More skilled
2. Depends on if Bruce decides to use his stealth here or fight straight up
3. I think Bruce is more capable of taking advantage of a chaotic environment like a battlefield than Oberyn
3. I don't know, Batman isn't used to fighting in a battlefield. He either sneaks up on you, takes on gangs of 10 or so fodder, or takes you on one on one. Oberyn is a soldier, which means he's used to being in a battlefield and used to the chaos it brings.
Yeah Oberyn was the father and leader of the Sand Snakes, one of the most feared and well known warrior bands in the world. And he himself is known the world over as the Red Viper, one of the best fighters of the time.
I'm sure he's seen a lot more battlefields than that one Bruce sort of experienced at the end of DKR.
Originally posted by Silent MasterWeird how people only really do that for Baleman, or occasionally Game of Thrones (which makes your post all the weirder, you're comparing him to a Game of Thrones character with similarly bad choreography, or perhaps worse, given that his only fight was against an opponent with worse choreography than anyone in the Dark Knight trilogy).
Those are Baleman's fighting feats, which we use to determine his skill.
No one calls Darth Maul an awful swordsman despite the fact that, as filmed, he's terrible. 👇
But this is beside the point. For real though, has Baleman ever used a sword onscreen? I honestly can't recall. Maybe in the League of Shadows training segment?
Originally posted by NemeBro
But this is beside the point. For real though, has Baleman ever used a sword onscreen? I honestly can't recall. Maybe in the League of Shadows training segment?
Well, we've got 2:15 and the I think during the training segment yeah.
Originally posted by PsychotronSquires follow knights on the battlefield, he'd have someone to give him another spear.
The poison was extremely potent and yet Gregor was still able to toss him around and disarm him.Now, if this happened in the middle of a battlefield where Oberyn wouldn't have some servant to give him a new spear he'd be dead in seconds.
Anyway, he wouldn't have been phucking around on the battlefield doing flips and smiling to the crowds, he also wouldn't be trying to get a confession.
He was clearly the superior fighter.