Superman punches the Trans Tier

Started by abhilegend11 pages
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This isn't so much as addressed to you but for others so they have some context.

Are you done blowing your wad?

Thor's axe out of any weapon would be able to scratch the Destroyer*.

😂

Its funny how you think that's something unique.

It is enchanted to cut through Celestials specifically as we all know but for some context as how it is viewed by Jason Aaron, it easily cut through Apocalypse:

That's by Rick Remender. And he had Thor tank the axe strike by one of Apocalypse twins.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-31O4YoLAuiM/Uw7o897rW6I/AAAAAAAA2eE/rMoyY0YsvAA/s1600/-018.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-c3NmPx8FRQw/Uw7o97JGI-I/AAAAAAAA2eU/6vhIyHexRgQ/s1600/-020.jpg

And the axe repeatedly unable to cut mjolnir.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dtfAsNlkFhs/Uw7o32LH0TI/AAAAAAAA2cg/pjCYRp_8w64/s1600/-006.jpg

Thor:

Thor was a ***** under Aaron at that time.

And even damaged a fed Galactus:

Alternate reality plus its not like Galactus is some kind of cosmic badass who never gets damaged.

Plus some other showings in Hickman's Avengers.

I'm quite sure you know them all.

On top of that being a hostless Destroyer which as we know can significantly weaken it. So the Destroyer being slightly harmed by an all out strike from a pissed off Thor directly at it's body is evidence as to why it would laugh off Superman's attack, not evidence of it's injury.

WTF are you talking about? Destroyer was inhabited by Cul, a skyfather level being.

Superman would punch through destroyer like a cardboard if Thor and his axe can damage it.

The underlined part is retarded. Here is the scan for those wondering:

It is from Journey into Mystery #628. This was the same writer that had the collective demon horde of Marvel shitting their pants, the Serpent's Fear power allowing Mephisto to basically become the Lucifer of the Marvel Multiverse at the thought of facing the Serpent and repeatedly stress as to how unbeatable the Serpent was.

Exactly like Imperiex probe except without any feats. A random probe stalemated Mordru, no sold omega beams by Darkseid and even no sold combined attack of Quintessence after tearing through space and time. Even 5D djinns like Thunderbolt pissed their pants at the thought of simply entering Imperiex's ship.

But bitchass hell lords are something now, huh?

I suggest people read the story arc and look at the lengths required to beat the Serpent (It took the shadow of Twilight for reality warping, Surtur destroying Dark Asgard, Thor with the Odin-Sword in combat {That's two Universal-Multiversal level plot devices plus a high end Hell Lord}

😂

Universal-multiversal, high end hell lord? WTF are you talking about?

and a bunch of other bullshit and tricks like the Fear and Hell Lords siphoning off his power IIRC). This all happened concurrently in Journey into Mystery and The Mighty Thor for those who are curious and want to double check anything as I don't have my issues on hand. The fact that it's even mentioned in a thread with Superman as a low showing is mind-blowing. Especially since it's a base level Destroyer.

The same Serpent destroyer was damaged by Thor and his axe. So Thor>>>Hell Lords, multiversal plot devices, huh?

*If you can even call it damage and for some context here is the entire fight, including it shrugging off a complete assault from both the axe and Mjolnir, the Scarlet witch, Karnilla herself, Frigga etc:
https://ibb.co/dpssja
https://ibb.co/mQ454a
https://ibb.co/jjZSHv
https://ibb.co/fussja
https://ibb.co/nz17Hv
https://ibb.co/i8JXja
https://ibb.co/jBoXja
https://ibb.co/bNfOqF

Yes, Serpent Destroyer was quite powerful. It isn't Serpent Destroyer here if you don't read.

The kind of logic you would need to use that issue as evidence of Superman even scratching the armor.....

Do you want me to start throwing around Superman feats. It would end with you bitching and moaning as always.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not even debating anything with Abhil (No point), just informing people on some context.

I know why you don't. You always end up losing.

Why? It'd be extremely easy to make a solid case for the Destroyer spanking Prime's ass depending on the host.

Even Odin Destroyer would be ripped apart. I dare you to make a case for Destroyer.

If it was some average Joe or something, Prime would get my vote by maybe throwing him away really far or something in a huge emotional tantrum but if you put someone like Thor or Superman in it, a hero with experience and powerful spirit, he gets his ass spanked.

Haha, no. Prime would rip apart Destroyer just like he ripped apart Monarch.

Try to argue Destroyer is more powerful than Monarch. I double dare you.

Prime is powerful but he's also very weak willed mentally and is facing something in the same tier of strength/durability as him but with a lot more versatility, no pain, ability to heal from even complete annihilation and the potential to get very powerful (The Destroyer can absorb energy to increase it's power).

crylaugh

Destroyer is in same tier and durability as Prime? What are you smoking?

I could easily see Prime getting incredibly frustrated, scared or just straight up freaked out from facing the Destroyer. The dude doesn't deal well with being on the receiving end as we've seen a few times. You don't even need to knock out Prime to beat him.

If someone wants to lowball, Prime has worse showings despite the Destroyer appearing for 50+ years now.

He has higher showings than Destroyer can even dream off. Not that he can dream BTW.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yet it was clearly doing something to help Doomsday, as the Guardians wanted for it run out of energy before making their move.

Yes, which again makes the feat fuzzy, as good as it is. It's not like he was adapted to superman's fists before he was killed. Well according to your logic the destroyer's blasting power should be > Phoenix's whether he lost or not.

The guardian said it was adapting to their power. Doomsday adapted against Superman by becoming stronger and more durable too.

Don't be ridiculous. First it was from a different writer and written years apart. Its like arguing a ship mast hits harder than phoenix because it put Thor into coma.

It might as well have been, it doesn't matter if someone is beaten senseless before getting a bullet put in them, the bullet is still what did it.

No, it might not have been. There is no comparison between a bullet and disintegration beam.

That next part isn't even relevant to the post so I'm not sure if you were actually replying or you're trying to start a feat war, either way it doesn't make sense.

ermm

I'm trying to start a feat war here?

That next part is you just being purposely dumb. Obviously not, it's just a similar tactic and it affected Mangog more than Glory so...stop.

Mangog didn't get a hole put through his stomach, did he?

He was on his back and literally getting up in the next panel, someone's never been stunned before. Stunned is this:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111202308/4474491-2065857-novathor60ua.jpg

a flash KO is this:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/308/577205-trinity03013.jpg

and this is getting knocked over:
http://imgur.com/1ED04M6

Mangog is on his back with arms up and being stunned. But yeah, this is more like a KO.

Right?

And where do you see a stunned face? 😂 His face isn't even clearly drawn.

If only you had a tool named zoom.

I'm not going to you how to debate Abhi, if you keep pulling stuff like that. 👆 3 people cut by the same source doesn't mean = durability. It should be beneath you to act like you don't know 👆

But that's exact same thing you're trying to do.

Read the comic.

Already did.

"I'm better than you, and this comic book forum thread is my evidence." 😂 Take your meds. 👆

Take lotions for that butthurt.

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TL;DR Point being, the armor's not breaking. And I have yet to see something sway me otherwise.

Of course you don't. It can be Lucifer Morningstar and Thorbags would still argue how Destroyer is indestructible.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you done blowing your wad?

😂

Its funny how you think that's something unique.

That's by Rick Remender. And he had Thor tank the axe strike by one of Apocalypse twins.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-31O4YoLAuiM/Uw7o897rW6I/AAAAAAAA2eE/rMoyY0YsvAA/s1600/-018.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-c3NmPx8FRQw/Uw7o97JGI-I/AAAAAAAA2eU/6vhIyHexRgQ/s1600/-020.jpg

And the axe repeatedly unable to cut mjolnir.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dtfAsNlkFhs/Uw7o32LH0TI/AAAAAAAA2cg/pjCYRp_8w64/s1600/-006.jpg

Thor was a ***** under Aaron at that time.

Alternate reality plus its not like Galactus is some kind of cosmic badass who never gets damaged.

I'm quite sure you know them all.

WTF are you talking about? Destroyer was inhabited by Cul, a skyfather level being.

😂

Universal-multiversal, high end hell lord? WTF are you talking about?

Yes, Serpent Destroyer was quite powerful. It isn't Serpent Destroyer here if you don't read.

And I know about that scene. Thor not being cut into two is evidence of his ridiculous durability and the difference in strength between him and an Apocalypse twin.

Rick Remender and Jason Aaron collaborated on the origin of Thor's axe: "“In issue #6 we’ll get a flashback where we see Thor, Rama Tut, Apocalypse and Kang in a conflict that creates a relic that we’ve currently been seeing in Jason Aaron’s ‘Thor: God of Thunder’ series. It’s Thor’s axe.We’ll see why the Axe is now the most powerful relic in the Marvel Universe, how it became that, and what role it’s going to play moving forward."
http://www.cbr.com/remender-plans-an-apocalyptic-future-for-the-uncanny-avengers/

It took multiple tries, striking a joint that was bent and it did absolutely nothing more than superficial damage:
https://ibb.co/dpssja
https://ibb.co/mQ454a
https://ibb.co/jjZSHv
https://ibb.co/fussja
https://ibb.co/nz17Hv
https://ibb.co/i8JXja
https://ibb.co/jBoXja
https://ibb.co/bNfOqF

I cut out the irrelevant parts but a lot of this post is still nonsense. Galactus being not invulnerable in other showings, Thor being depressed (This affects the cutting power of his axe how?) or the axe being unable to cut Mjolnir somehow take away from the weapon's showings?

Again, a weapon that is the definition of a plot device that has ability to not just kill Celestials but to damage everything else in between wielded by a pissed off Thor did superficial damage at the joint after repeated tries. This is not a low showing. This is evidence that under 99% of the writers, Superman would break himself trying to hurt the Destroyer.

But again, this wasn't about changing your opinion, just offering some perspective to others. Remember folks, always make sure to ask for references and take everything he says with a grain of salt. 🙂

Originally posted by abhilegend
I know why you don't. You always end up losing.

Even Odin Destroyer would be ripped apart. I dare you to make a case for Destroyer.

Haha, no. Prime would rip apart Destroyer just like he ripped apart Monarch.

Try to argue Destroyer is more powerful than Monarch. I double dare you.

crylaugh

Destroyer is in same tier and durability as Prime? What are you smoking?

He has higher showings than Destroyer can even dream off. Not that he can dream BTW.

So, the Odin Destroyer would get ripped apart by Prime? Bruh.

Iyo, who exactly can defeat Prime? Aside from Superboy, the Teen Titans, a Flash etc.?

Prime piercing Monarch's containment shell =/= Prime ripping apart the Destroyer. What kind of reasoning is that? The Destroyer is not a brittle containment armor meant to keep the Quantum Field in check but whatever. I just wanted to address the point.

You seem to think Prime would one-shot the Destroyer or something. I'll agree to disagree. 🙂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And I know about that scene. Thor not being cut into two is evidence of his ridiculous durability and the difference in strength between him and an Apocalypse twin.

Rick Remender and Jason Aaron collaborated on the origin of Thor's axe: "“In issue #6 we’ll get a flashback where we see Thor, Rama Tut, Apocalypse and Kang in a conflict that creates a relic that we’ve currently been seeing in Jason Aaron’s ‘Thor: God of Thunder’ series. It’s Thor’s axe.We’ll see why the Axe is now the most powerful relic in the Marvel Universe, how it became that, and what role it’s going to play moving forward."
http://www.cbr.com/remender-plans-an-apocalyptic-future-for-the-uncanny-avengers/

It took multiple tries, striking a joint that was bent and it did absolutely nothing more than superficial damage:
https://ibb.co/dpssja
https://ibb.co/mQ454a
https://ibb.co/jjZSHv
https://ibb.co/fussja
https://ibb.co/nz17Hv
https://ibb.co/i8JXja
https://ibb.co/jBoXja
https://ibb.co/bNfOqF

I cut out the irrelevant parts but a lot of this post is still nonsense. Galactus being not invulnerable in other showings, Thor being depressed (This affects the cutting power of his axe how?) or the axe being unable to cut Mjolnir somehow take away from the weapon's showings?

Again, a weapon that is the definition of a plot device that has ability to not just kill Celestials but to damage everything else in between wielded by a pissed off Thor did superficial damage at the joint after repeated tries. This is not a low showing. This is evidence that under 99% of the writers, Superman would break himself trying to hurt the Destroyer.

But again, this wasn't about changing your opinion, just offering some perspective to others. Remember folks, always make sure to ask for references and take everything he says with a grain of salt. 🙂


So Thor is now more durable than Cul Destroyer under Remender?

Heh, standard writer hyperboles "Most powerful relic in marvel universe".

It did damage it though. And OWAW Superman hits way harder than Thor with Jarnjborn. Heck, even a legitimate skyfather who is arguably more powerful than Odin couldn't beat a single probe.

Entropy Aegis in itself showed how retardedly powerful even a single probe is.

Galactus got his jaw broken by a returning stormbreaker in the same scene. You were the same person who was arguing how Thor was depressed hence weaker. And mjolnir is hardly the unbreakable thing you pretend it is.

OWAW is not a normal showing for Superman. How hard is it for you to understand? Even Jarnjborn has nothing on something like Persuader's axe and Superman outright no sold the atomic axe at normal level under Casey.

Oh you pussy, always running away from me. Try for someone else to wank next time.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So, the Odin Destroyer would get ripped apart by Prime? Bruh.

What bruh? Odin Destroyer was punching hard enough to destroy worlds and could tank supernovas.

Got slagged by Celestials and then matched in strength by a young Thor in Thor: Man of War. What exactly is so impressive about it?

Iyo, who exactly can defeat Prime? Aside from Superboy, the Teen Titans, a Flash etc.?

Should I start bringing up Odin losing to space ants and dying by providing power to a single world? Or a powerless Masterson Thor stunning Loki in Odin's body with one mjolnir shot?

Skyfathers can't beat Prime. Even Mordru and Kinetix amped on entire universe's worth of magic were unable to even hurt Prime.

Prime piercing Monarch's containment shell =/= Prime ripping apart the Destroyer. What kind of reasoning is that? The Destroyer is not a brittle containment armor meant to keep the Quantum Field in check but whatever. I just wanted to address the point.

So brittle that it simultaneously stomped 52 Captain Atoms, multiple Supermen, green lanterns etc? Held enough power to destroy entire universe and frighten entire Monitor race?

And Prime ripped Monarch's suit apart. Not just pierced it.

You seem to think Prime would one-shot the Destroyer or something. I'll agree to disagree. 🙂

Not oneshot but ripping it apart? Yes, absolutely.

Hey Rage, you want power scaling, right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
And as Thorbags want to scale power levels, here you go.

Alex Luthor recreates infinite multiverse using the magic of prime universe.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23168988/shift.jpg.html

Reiterated multiple times that the magic of main universe is the fuel.

http://i.imgur.com/eKeBHNc.jpg

Just for emphasis, it is again confirmed that Alex indeed brought the pre crisis infinite multiverse back. From Justice Society of America 20 if anyone wants to know.

Mordru had absorbed entire magic of Legion universe.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mH3AQZmWS5k/VjOaWUFcJJI/AAAAAAARvoU/b3GvdBi6K_k/s1600/24_07.jpg

SBP flat out laughed at his attack. But Mordru was certainly holding back, eh?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11112/111125835/3216693-superman+prime+magix.jpg

So did Kinetix who had absorbed the magic of her entire universe.

http://i.imgur.com/Oi7lTkp.jpg

What happened to her?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111116033/3851617-91233782.jpg

Funniest thing? It's all written by one writer.

Odin alone is that powerful, huh? What about Galactus?

Originally posted by carver9
What does Thor ft have to do with Supes?

One of the people Supes is punching is Thanos. Thor suffering from something like WM and using the power gem only managed to draw some blood from Thanos.

Originally posted by Surtur
One of the people Supes is punching is Thanos. Thor suffering from something like WM and using the power gem only managed to draw some blood from Thanos.

And? Thing recently did more damage than that.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/34735846/Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_2015-_019-024.jpg.html

And you thought Darkseid had it bad, huh?

Originally posted by Surtur
One of the people Supes is punching is Thanos. Thor suffering from something like WM and using the power gem only managed to draw some blood from Thanos.

Non-Odinpowered.

😆 Thanos just hasn't been the same post Starlin.

Originally posted by cdtm
😆 Thanos just hasn't been the same post Starlin.

Even Starlin had mere fungus control him just recently.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
And? Thing recently did more damage than that.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/34735846/Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_2015-_019-024.jpg.html

And you thought Darkseid had it bad, huh?

lol

ben is just that sweet. 👆

btw where is that from?

Originally posted by leonidas
lol

ben is just that sweet. 👆

btw where is that from?

Classic Ben has literally smashed Thanus' testicles:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111123678/3996760-8840396442-Warlo.jpg

Look at the blood. Look at it, leo.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Non-Odinpowered.

Indeed, but Superman still isn't going to be punching significantly harder than Thor with the power gem suffering from something very much like WM.

Originally posted by cdtm
😆 Thanos just hasn't been the same post Starlin.

Lol yeah, either Thing has gotten a massive strength upgrade or Thanos has been severely downgraded in power.

So I actually agree now. If Thanos and his current power levels are truly this pitiful it is NOT silly to say he dies in one hit.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Classic Ben has literally smashed Thanus' testicles:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111123678/3996760-8840396442-Warlo.jpg

Look at the blood. Look at it, leo.

It's not just Thing, Thor seems to have zapped Thanos in the balls with lightning prior to Thing going all clobberin' time on the testes of the titan.

Originally posted by Surtur
So I actually agree now. If Thanos and his current power levels are truly this pitiful it is NOT silly to say he dies in one hit.

Where has this been shown outside of a comic written by Bendis?

And Thanos weakened and dying from illness.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where has this been shown outside of a comic written by Bendis?

And Thanos weakened and dying from illness.

you're wasting your time trying to teach the retards.

Hell one of the scans is a pre death amp Thanos and the only other real low showing are from a single writer.

If Superman tries they disintegrate, otherwise they turn into sloppy goo like IT's post steroid cycle manboobs.