Originally posted by Adam_PoE
So is this the catch-all "Things That Trigger Conservatives" thread? Because none of this is about the subject of the thread.
You are late to the party, I admitted it wasn't. But then don't worry, we had leftists in the Trump President thread whining about people not responding to other topics about acid attacks in the UK.
So you see, everybody is posting off topic. Embrace it. Or at the very least be consistent in your complaining about off topic posts.
I can't wait for Hilary to tell us all "What Happened". I expect it will be two pages long. The first page will say "COMEY!!!" and the second page will say "RUSSIA!!".
It's like some kind of Lich from D&D, you keep destroying the physical form, but because the phylactery is still in tact...that motherf*cker will always return.
Artists interpretation of Hilary Clinton:
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Preschoolers aren't necessarily toddlers, a preschooler can range from anywhere between 2-6. And beyond the age of say three, yeah I'd say children are capable of understanding fairly complex subjects, there ability to use the toilet nonwithstanding.That said this article is only discussing how you should act around/treat your child. Not sitting down and having a TED talk with them. I'm not seeing anything in the article that a child would feasibly struggle with.
Lol. I'd have to disagree. They do not have a very good grasp of their gender identity at the pre school age. they don't even fully understand their own bodies let alone the concept of being the other gender. they understand they have different genitalia and that's about it.
A child may not struggle with it but they aren't going to fully understand it either. they are going to parrot whatever you say basically. In that sense, I agree with the article that you should preach that different family types are acceptable. I'm also for eradicating gender roles and stereotypes. If we could eliminate those, we probably wouldn't have as many people wanting to change their sex.
Originally posted by Surtur
I can't wait for Hilary to tell us all "What Happened". I expect it will be two pages long. The first page will say "COMEY!!!" and the second page will say "RUSSIA!!".It's like some kind of Lich from D&D, you keep destroying the physical form, but because the phylactery is still in tact...that motherf*cker will always return.
Artists interpretation of Hilary Clinton:
I never understood the whole bathroom thing. Either they should be segregated on the basis of biological sex since biological anatomy is the only thing relevant to taking a piss/shit, or there's not really much of a point in segregating them at all.
Also yeah this transgender military ban thing is weird, and I'm not sure what Trump was hoping to accomplish with this other than piss people off.
Originally posted by socool8520
Nothing is offensive in the article, but I do think it is pointless to try to talk to your children about gender when they are toddlers. i don't know if you have kids, but toddlers are still learning how to use the bathroom properly. they do not have the reasoning skills to comprehend Gender identity beyond maybe genitalia.I do agree that we could get rid of the masculine/feminine stereotypes though. They are archaic and unnecessary. If we got rid of these, I think it would fix a lot of these gender identity issues.
Actually, the masculine/feminine stereotype is used more by females these days. Feminist and the left says we're both equals, threat us equally, but turns around and ask us why men are so sentitive. They still wants men to pay for dinner, and if you say lets go Dutch, they response with chilvary is dead.
Women wants equally, yet refuses to do the dirty jobs.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I never understood the whole bathroom thing. Either they should be segregated on the basis of biological sex since biological anatomy is the only thing relevant to taking a piss/shit, or there's not really much of a point in segregating them at all.
I'd also argue anyone who is upset because they are pissing in a bathroom that isn't for their identified gender is batshit insane.
A person is not emotionally mature enough to swap genders if they are triggered by frickin bathrooms.
Originally posted by SquallX
Oh my ****ing God! The left is like the snake that eats its own tail.
There is an even worse example that happened on "The View". I can't find the original clip, but this episode of Louder with Crowder has it, begins around 8:25 and the segment lasts about 8 minutes. It is painful to watch.
Lol, this is insanity. Even the two biggest SJW's in the clip of The View keep slipping up and using the wrong pronoun and then hilariously correcting each other. Be prepared to die a little bit inside if you watch the clip.
The one blonde woman literally virtue signals to the trans person(who is in the audience) after she corrects another View member for using the wrong pronoun, and she does that hand signal kinda meant to signify "I got your back" and then immediately uses the wrong pronoun and gets corrected by another panel member lol.
I thought Joy Behar was supposed to be a comedian, but damn lol:
Awful. "You are polling lower than the Zyka virus".
Originally posted by SurturLmfao, that was funny. But I expect we were laughing for completely different reasons. 😆
There is an even worse example that happened on "The View". I can't find the original clip, but this episode of Louder with Crowder has it, begins around 8:25 and the segment lasts about 8 minutes. It is painful to watch.Lol, this is insanity. Even the two biggest SJW's in the clip of The View keep slipping up and using the wrong pronoun and then hilariously correcting each other. Be prepared to die a little bit inside if you watch the clip.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEIt's Surt's new SJW thread, guy was going into withdrawal, he needs his fix. 🙁
So is this the catch-all "Things That Trigger Conservatives" thread? Because none of this is about the subject of the thread.
Oh my God, no that isn't what gender non-conforming is. Holy **** did you read the article?OK my bad, I misread it - was on vacation with bad interwebz. 🙁"Gender nonconforming means your gender identity or expression doesn't go along with traditional ideas of just male or female -- it could mean you identify with words like non-binary, genderqueer, or something else. Some adults use words like "gender expansive" or "gender creative" to describe children with non-binary gender expressions."
But yeah, those terms were not in reference to what they should tell their preschool kids.
For all the shit you're giving me it seems like you didn't read the article because gender non-conforming is very distinguished from regular transgendered people in the articleNot giving you shit DMB, just asking you to be specific, cite your claims and stay mad. Makes the conversation more enjoyable for the both of us.
And one of the best defenses transgendered people have is saying that it's biologically rooted, pointing to differences in brain structure and hormones, as well as brain chemistry, or deeply psychologically rooted with even the article you linked saying that the validity of transgenderism is characterized by persistently identifying with the identity, or culturally rooted in the male-female archetype.OK? You are conflating being transgender or genderfluid with gender identity, they are states of mind, gender identities are the societal concepts that they feel problematic about, which you needn't even be trans to challenge or break from. Neither does being non-binary mean you're inconsistent lol, they persistently identify in this manner.There is absolutely no basis in any of these things for "genderfluidity," since that shit isn't biologically, psychologically, or culturally rooted.
It says to talk to your child about gender using that website and the first two links at least take you to places that say "the gender binary" is bullshit.A general set of resources that cover various situations and stages of development yeah, like I said. Try to understand that this still doesn't equate to giving your 5 year old a TEDtalk on the gender binary, and in fact are headed as there to educate parents, not kids:
A comprehensive collection of research, resources, and stories to help any parent, family member, or guardian learn more about gender diversity.
If parents are going to talk to their kids about gender identity, it helps to know what they are talking about first, but that doesn't mean imparting complex concepts to them that they are too young to engage with.
And you're offering nothing more than an opinion when you defend gender being a spectrum by that logic, and if perspectives on this are nothing more than opinion, then they shouldn't be imparted on young children, they should be explained when they are old enough to discuss and debate this concept.It's a judgement yes, that doesn't mean it lacks value. But beyond that I agree, and I think you are wrong when you say that's what Planned Parenthood is advising parents to. The specific advice they give to how to talk to trans kids about gender identity are very basic and uncomplicated, the general resources they cite are not specific, cover various age groups, and are geared towards parental understanding of the topic so they can address it properly, not the child's.
And one of the main defenses trans people have is pointing to the biological basis for transgenderism, hormones, brain structure, etc. studies that people have done on transgendered people's brains.Covered already, this doesn't equate to gender identity being biological.
Identity has to have some objective and socially negotiated basis otherwise anyone can identify as anything, which is why I completely oppose the post-modernist social constructionist view of gender that says gender is disconnected from biology.Um no? "Don't like don't want" isn't prove that gender is biological, I agree with you on the importance of some kind of societal grounding, but that doesn't justify forcibly grounding it in something that's is not. Gender identity can be observably identified as a set of social constructs, and one's that have changed significantly overtime, so I can't fault people for deconstructing the idea that it's biological. But that also doesn't mean we can't come to a new, socially negotiated and agreed upon understanding of what gender is.
Originally posted by EmperordmbWell, i really don't think the idea of segregating by biological sex is feasible.
I never understood the whole bathroom thing. Either they should be segregated on the basis of biological sex since biological anatomy is the only thing relevant to taking a piss/shit, or there's not really much of a point in segregating them at all.Also yeah this transgender military ban thing is weird, and I'm not sure what Trump was hoping to accomplish with this other than piss people off.
We only seem to segregate by biological sex because for the most part, the vast majority of people are not trans and are going to be easily identifiable as one gender or the other.
So it's easy to enforce that only "men" go in the "mens" room when we are dealing with appearances. But the transgender phenomenon adds a new dynamic. Now, if someone looks like a man and identifies as a man but is biologically female, you might run into more trouble trying to use the ladies room than the mens room.
So really, to me, there is nothing that needs to be done about the bathrooms. Keep it "mens" and "ladies," with the understood assumption that you better damn well look like a man or a lady if you expect to use that bathroom without causing an incident.
This is why I feel that the people who are like.. "I'm non-binary" are actually just using the trans thing as a sort of fashion accessory. They lack the commitment to go full tranny but they want to be a part of the marginalized group so they invent some new category that is vague enough to describe them.
As I've said before, that's the main problem with kids these days. Cant commit to anything.
You just can't make this stuff up.
This leftist says Trump is a bigger danger to immigrants than MS-13.