Originally posted by MythLord
I don't really care what Shapiro allows or doesn't allow. The point is, making d!ck sucking jokes constantly, continuously using someone's own sexuality against them and causing a flood of fans to spam and harrass another internet personality is wrong. Crowder could've done the responsible thing and said "Let's not fvcking doxx people just because they disagree with me". He didn't, he heard it happened and found it amusing.
The same way I criticize Justin Beiber for not speaking out when he heard his fans were sliting his wrists specifically for/because of him, I'll also criticize Steven. It's called being a grown adult and being held accountable for your actions.And I criticize most of those people for the very same reasons. I don't really criticize South Park, since SP is fairly centrist and mocks both sides and it's a satire; it's not meant to be taken seriously and doesn't cause people to doxx each other.
Yes and part of being a grown adult is accepting the fact that not everyone is going to like you, not everyone is going to be nice to you, especially not if you're a public figure.
Yeah, and I think people should be allowed to be edgy. It's public life, you are going to take slings and arrows, the entire purpose of satire and comedy is that nothing is sacred.
I'm not going to throw a ***** fit and demand someone be punished if they start shitting on Christianity... because I am an adult.
If you can give me an example of Crowder actually telling his followers to do this shit you'll have more of a point.
Originally posted by MythLord
I do think Carlos encouraging milkshake throwing is a bad move, and he should also face some consequence. No, I don't think he should be de-platformed, but any calls to violence and any persistant harrassment should be punished in some way. You can't just do sh!t like that. And you calling Carlos Lispy doesn't exactly help your case; it's just another bad, edgy joke.
Well I mean I think there's a difference between those two things, Queer Carlos obviously did something worse by a call for violence than Crowder did... even if you do provide evidence that Crowder actively told people to go do this shit.
Call me a bit old fashioned, but I think that Queer Carlos should be capable of being a big boy and responding with appropriate force, you know, responding to words with words and criticizing Crowder... he certainly has a mob of people behind him right now who are calling Crowder a piece of shit and large parts of the media backing him up. That should be sufficient consequence without Queer Carlos trying to get Crowder demonetized and deplatformed.
Because at the end of the day Crowder called Queer Carlos some mean names and his fans went overboard... meanwhile Queer Carlos is getting everyone to call him a piece of shit, and trying to undercut this dude's entire platform and voice and trying to attack his business with corporate censorship.