Originally posted by cdtm
https://nypost.com/2019/12/02/daughter-of-police-chief-in-starbucks-cup-scandal-says-hes-absolutely-a-pig/Police officer says her father is totally a pig.
Well, that settles that. I mean, no daughter on Earth ever hated her father for stupid reasons. 😉
I laughed, not only because we're expected to take the word of someone who has been estranged from their father for years, but because this was then uncovered:
She sounds pretty piggish too. Giggle.
Ellen Ripley with 90 seconds of military training from Corporal Dwayne Hicks was able to take on an entire Alien infestation and their giant queen, which had previously taken out a squad of Colonial Marines.
You'd be screaming "Mary Sue!" and "feminist agenda!", if it was a a new film now. These are facts based on previous behavior.
Originally posted by Robtard
Ellen Ripley with 90 seconds of military training from Corporal Dwayne Hicks was able to take on an entire Alien infestation and their giant queen, which had previously taken out a squad of Colonial Marines.You'd be screaming "Mary Sue!" and "feminist agenda!", if it was a a new film now. These are facts based on previous behavior.
WW was created to be a literal god killer, then she actually killed said god. I didn't scream "Mary Sue".
Once again: you tried. Your opinion has been noted.
Nothing you said counters what I said about Ellen Ripley/the Alien franchise.
In regards to your pivot to WW, you still managed to whinge over that one too. See this quote:
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Almost Surt's entire contribution to the Wonder Women thread is going on about if the film doesn't do well/doesn't win awards it'll be blamed on misogyny/sexism.It's almost like he does the exact same thing as
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Some intriguing points made by the guy Crowder talks with here. And the guy still agrees with Crowder's factual statement that Thanksgiving isn't racist.
You can see some unhinged college students at the beginning say that it is, that "whiteness is a cancer" etc. It's worth a chuckle.
Crowder factually saying Thanksgiving isn't racist did get me to thinking about what we were taught about the native americans in school. Were people here taught a black and white version of events or a more nuanced view? Personally I was not taught a nuanced view. We were taught that we stole a lot of the natives land, but we were never taught about how the natives themselves routinely stole land, enslaved other tribes, etc.
To be fair I went to private schools(catholic schools, to be specific). Perhaps those who went to public schools were taught a more balanced version of history.
Originally posted by Robtard
"Bland" is subjective, but Rey isn't perfect and she has flaws...
Perfect is the wrong term, imo. Plenty of heroes are naturally gifted at everything they do.
Look at Hercules. He was essentially the early Superman, and can do things no moral can do.
He was also an arrogant bastard who needed to be taken down a peg.
Same deal with Thor. He was such a dick, he stopped being worthy to BE Thor, and had to earn that right back.
Tony Stark is another obvious one, what with the alcoholism and self centered attitude. Captain America, on the other hand...
I'm not too sure about. I mean, yeah, he started out a weakling and volunteered to roll the dice for his nation, but is that really a flaw? Sounds like self sacrifice to me.
What was his heroes journey again? Did he even have one?
Originally posted by cdtm
Perfect is the wrong term, imo. Plenty of heroes are naturally gifted at everything they do.Look at Hercules. He was essentially the early Superman, and can do things no moral can do.
He was also an arrogant bastard who needed to be taken down a peg.
Same deal with Thor. He was such a dick, he stopped being worthy to BE Thor, and had to earn that right back.
Tony Stark is another obvious one, what with the alcoholism and self centered attitude. Captain America, on the other hand...
I'm not too sure about. I mean, yeah, he started out a weakling and volunteered to roll the dice for his nation, but is that really a flaw? Sounds like self sacrifice to me.
What was his heroes journey again? Did he even have one?
I respect your opinion, but disagree. Perfect is but *one* aspect. Maybe there is a word that would be better to use? I dunno.
For instance being an arrogant bastard is a flaw.
Originally posted by cdtm
What was Captain America's flaw, though? He's essentially perfect in every way.Is he simply the exception that proves the rule? Like Superman, whom conflict exists as an external threat to everyone around him, since he can never he touched either physically or ethically/morally?
Yeah, but there is a perfectly valid reason for why CA is so perfect. He was injected with super soldier serum.
LOL. Plenty of people can give Superman a run for his money especially those that use kryptonite, magic, and red sun rays.
Even Superman has flaws. His no kill code can be a flaw at times. I remember reading an old comic(very old) where he was essentially gonna let some demons murder him cuz the only way he could beat them was to kill them.
Think about that, that's borderline having a mental illness(I'm being kind because I like superman, it's not borderline it is definitely a mental illness)
It's one thing if he was a random person, but he's nigh immortal. If he didn't die he could potentially go on to save billions. Hell, trillions.
Originally posted by Surtur
Even Superman has flaws. His no kill code can be a flaw at times. I remember reading an old comic(very old) where he was essentially gonna let some demons murder him cuz the only way he could beat them was to kill them.Think about that, that's borderline having a mental illness(I'm being kind because I like superman, it's not borderline it is definitely a mental illness)
It's one thing if he was a random person, but he's nigh immortal. If he didn't die he could potentially go on to save billions. Hell, trillions.
He also ignored all the people crying for help in Superman 2 because he was so wrapped-up in his relationship with Lois and made the huge error of submitting to have his powers taken away so he could have a sexual relationship with her. That was pretty selfish, imo.I'm sure there are many other examples of Superman making huge errors in judgment. He's not flawless. He is not morally perfect though he is a lot closer to being so than someone like say... Batman, for instance.