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Originally posted by dadudemon
I can give you exact figures to support this.

In high school, I could have competed with the top women in world in powerlifting, in the same weight class, and won by a large margin.

I was in the 72-76kg weigh class (was 165lbs and weight classes vary: IPF is 74kg) when I competed. For a nice round combined number of 1,200lbs (543.23kgs). I took 6th at state the last time I competed. Sixth. Guy who won broke the North American squat record for our weight class. He was roided to the max (bacne and everything).

Obviously, I'm still bitter.

For comparison, here are the 2019 women's world championship results. Her squat is higher than mine was but I was much higher in bench and dead-lift. She's a full 135kgs ahead of her 2nd and 3rd place competitors which is monstrous (she's an anomaly). Her combined total is 435kgs.

http://goodlift.info/onecompetition.php?lid=0&cid=490

Compare that to the men's result (74kg) and I would be heartily trounced at my best in this weight class. My best combined figure is 618kg. His combined total is 642.5kg. Even when I weighed 100kg at my strongest, his combined total is still higher than mine. He's a monster.

http://goodlift.info/onecompetition.php?lid=0&cid=491

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Thing is through DDM, you said it yourself there are females who are anomalies. That said I agree with a lot of what you are propagating. I would be the GOAT in womens Rugby and the scrum would have been a lot more fun for sure...

I was by no means supreme compared to other high school power lifters. I was strong, sure. But compared to the world's best men, I wouldn't even place. Muscle maturity is a real thing.

However, compare me to the women (when I was in high school) and I beat them, even their "monsters" by a huge margin. Which is my point.

It's not guaranteed that all the time every time the woman will lose. Nobody is saying that, so pointing out instances when a man lost is silly and somewhat embarrassing for the person doing it.

We generally don't count anomalies. Some people are born with 6 fingers, but if you are asked how many fingers a person has you will say 5. We don't go with the rare exceptions we with go with the rule. More often than not men have an advantage. When you have an adult pro women soccer team losing to 15 yr. old boys there is a problem(and no do not come at me with excuses about how they didn't try).

Is this actually new information for anyone here? Am I saying something anyone here did not already know?

Originally posted by Surtur
It's not guaranteed that all the time every time the woman will lose. Nobody is saying that, so pointing out instances when a man lost is silly and somewhat embarrassing for the person doing it.

We generally don't count anomalies. Some people are born with 6 fingers, but if you are asked how many fingers a person has you will say 5. We don't go with the rare exceptions we with go with the rule. More often than not men have an advantage. When you have an adult pro women soccer team losing to 15 yr. old boys there is a problem(and no do not come at me with excuses about how they didn't try).

Is this actually new information for anyone here? Am I saying something anyone here did not already know?

Yeah so if you're gonna respond in bad faith we're moving on, someone will be along to bingo you shortly.

Can't believe there are still idiots who don't understand that men have an inherent, huge physical advantage over women in just about all sports. Of course those same people also tend to be the ones that think that there are over five dozen genders so... yeah, not surprising really.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Oh anomalies always count in Sport it's what sport is about. Tyson Fury is an Anomaly, Usain Bolt is an Anomaly, all your de france cyclists are anomalies, Eddie Hall is an anomaly, Jonah Lomu was an Anomaly.

I'd disagree that Usain Bolt is an anomaly. He's tall, yes, but he also trained like a mad man. He doesn't have any insane "gifts" other than his height - it was almost all training.

You're right about Eddie Hall: he has a myostatin deficiency genetic disorder.

Tyson Fury is not an anomaly at all. He trained his ass off like a madman. Calling him an anomaly discredits his hard work and extreme dedication to be the best.

Every last Tour de France athlete is not an anomaly: just a hard worker who blood dopes. There are probably a few anomalies, for sure, but it's hard work that gets you to the top, not genetic gifts.

Eddie Hall, Michael Phelps: great examples of people with genetics gifts that also trained hard to get to the top.

I should put it a different way: almost every single one of the world's top athletes are not anomalies. They are products of extreme amounts of hard work.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Oh anomalies always count in Sport it's what sport is about. Tyson Fury is an Anomaly, Usain Bolt is an Anomaly, all your de france cyclists are anomalies, Eddie Hall is an anomaly, Jonah Lomu was an Anomaly.

Completely remove their hard work and claim anomalies for their wins.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd disagree that Usain Bolt is an anomaly. He's tall, yes, but he also trained like a mad man. He doesn't have any insane "gifts" other than his height - it was almost all training.

You're right about Eddie Hall: he has a myostatin deficiency genetic disorder.

Tyson Fury is not an anomaly at all. He trained his ass off like a madman. Calling him an anomaly discredits his hard work and extreme dedication to be the best.

Every last Tour de France athlete is not an anomaly: just a hard worker who blood dopes. There are probably a few anomalies, for sure, but it's hard work that gets you to the top, not genetic gifts.

Eddie Hall, Michael Phelps: great examples of people with genetics gifts that also trained hard to get to the top.

I should put it a different way: almost every single one of the world's top athletes are not anomalies. They are products of extreme amounts of hard work.

Originally posted by SquallX
Completely remove their hard work and claim anomalies for their wins.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Can't believe there are still idiots who don't understand that men have an inherent, huge physical advantage over women in just about all sports. Of course those same people also tend to be the ones that think that there are over five dozen genders so... yeah, not surprising really.

I'm just laughing that he took me saying "anomalies don't count" as if I meant their accomplishments in sports do not count. I can't figure out why else he'd start spouting off about a variety of top tier athletes.

Yet no...I was talking about how anomalies don't count in a discussion about the physical advantages men have over women. I felt that my example of a person born with 6 fingers hammered that home.

It's sad that simple, common sense stuff like men being inherently > women in sports has to be explained to grown ass adults like pootybot... smh. ❌

Now watch as he either accuses me of being a sexist or simply replies with his retarded little "hur dur" toothless emoji like he always does to my posts.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm just laughing that he took me saying "anomalies don't count" as if I meant their accomplishments in sports do not count. I can't figure out why else he'd start spouting off about a variety of top tier athletes.

Yet no...I was talking about how anomalies don't count in a discussion about the physical advantages men have over women. I felt that my example of a person born with 6 fingers hammered that home.

https://nationalpost.com/news/for-first-time-a-woman-has-successfully-finished-demanding-u-s-navy-seal-officer-screening-program

To say she isn't up to competing with elite males is wrong as 75% drop out. So these anomalies show some women can compete with above average men.

I can't stand womens sports, they are a pale imitation of mens. Would most women international soccer players outplaye me, yes, clearly.

It would take an elite woman just to compete with an above average man I'm sure you'd agree. And I'm also sure you agree there is a massive difference between an above average male athlete and one at the top of their sport. Hell just being merely above average usually is never enough to really make it professionally. Even the dude finishing dead last in an Olympic race probably is still above being merely an above average athlete. He's just the shittiest out of a handful of elite athletes.

And I think an elite male athlete would probably destroy a female one. Like, Serena Williams or whoever is the #1 woman in tennis now...if we put them up against the current #1 guy in tennis what do you think is gonna happen? WNBA champions play the NBA champions, what happens? Now do soccer. Now do running. Now do weight lifting.

Shit speaking of tennis, while it was before my time perhaps you remember the battle of the sexes? There was two different matches, one guy who was 55 against two different women. The first woman he beat and she had been #1 for 7 years at the time. And he was fifty frickin five. The 2nd woman won. So two elite female athletes in their prime went up against a washed up formerly elite male athlete in his 50's and only won 50% of the time. And that should be the story people tell whenever someone tries to argue about this nonsense.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Can't believe there are still idiots who don't understand that men have an inherent, huge physical advantage over women in just about all sports. Of course those same people also tend to be the ones that think that there are over five dozen genders so... yeah, not surprising really.

Not so much amateur wrestling, for some reasons the odds are fairly evened out if you adjust for weight.

Iin terms of trans and hormone replacement therapy, it's said all the time that trans women enjoy no advantage over women without a Y chromosome.

How can anyone know this for certain? How do we know a trans women might have similar advantages to a XX women who doped?

No one can know for sure, such studies to examine those sorts of advantages do not exist. They have a baseline, and most trans probably fall into that baseline.

Would the top trans woman be comparable to the top female anomalies? Would ALL.trans women be athletic anomalies? Would some trans women fall well below men, yet well above even the top women?

Is it fair to XX women that we don't know, and don't seem to care (Even though some XX chromosome women clearly do care)?

Unless the guy began taking hormones at a very young age they would still retain most of the physical advantages.

Trigger warning, Tim Pool video:

Study Shows Birth Control Makes Women Bad At Math And Bad At Problem Solving

YouTube video

lol

Oh shit.

All those stories of very young kids who "want" hormone replacement therapy? What are they, 5?

I have a very bad feeling about those. If you wanted to conduct a study of the effects of hormone replacement therapy on kids, you'd need people to study.

How many of those kids demanded the proceedure all on their own, without any adult influences or coaxing?

Originally posted by cdtm
Oh shit.

All those stories of very young kids who "want" hormone replacement therapy? What are they, 5?

I have a very bad feeling about those. If you wanted to conduct a study of the effects of hormone replacement therapy on kids, you'd need people to study.

How many of those kids demanded the proceedure all on their own, without any adult influences or coaxing?

I don't know the age of the youngest kid to be put on puberty blockers cuz they identify as a different gender. I do know recently in Australia a "boy" is getting them who is 11.

Australian Preteens Are Taking Puberty Blockers

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We'll probably see more kids between the ages of 9-12 getting these.