If it was the city, then that seems to be poor blockage and not having proper signals for the protesters and having them wear stuff to make them stand out...yeah that doesn't seem right.
Though why these protesters chose a freeway and protesting at...what 2am? Thought they were going to accomplish....ok.
Originally posted by Raptor22
From the evidence we have it seems like the city closed the entrance ramps to the highway and he entered thru an exit ramp and proceeded to speed down the highway in the wrong direction."Troopers said Kelete somehow managed to get past the roadblocks on I-5 and plow into protesters while headed in the wrong direction on the freeway."
From that my initial take would be that this guy was probably trying to get on the highway and the ramps were closed. He probably drove around for a min until he saw an open ramp and took it. At some point he probably realized he was going the wrong way, freaked out and sped up to get the hell out of there.
Or he never realized it, thought he was going the right way down the highway, and just cruised until he saw the vans and people and swerved.
Either way it seems some sort of vehicular manslaughter or negligent homocide charge would be appropriate.
I've done that. Gone the wrong way down a one way road.
Was with three other passengers, and no one realizes it up until the first car came in the opposite direction.
This story here is a tragedy, and I agree he probably should be charged. But to be fair just about anyone can get confused the way they're constantly remapping roads to accommodate these protestors.
I know I'd sure panic, if I couldn't find an on ramp in an unfamiliar place and wanted to get home.
Originally posted by cdtmyeah ive been there myself. I was on vacation in Florida and i was pulling out of a gas station and there were 4 lanes, so i thought 2 for one direction 2 for the other. When 4 lanes of cars started to come at me i realized my error. It was pretty terrifying.
I've done that. Gone the wrong way down a one way road.Was with three other passengers, and no one realizes it up until the first car came in the opposite direction.
This story here is a tragedy, and I agree he probably should be charged. But to be fair just about anyone can get confused the way they're constantly remapping roads to accommodate these protestors now I'd sure panic, if I couldn't find an on ramp in an unfamiliar place and wanted to get home.
Originally posted by Raptor22
yeah ive been there myself. I was on vacation in Florida and i was pulling out of a gas station and there were 4 lanes, so i thought 2 for one direction 2 for the other. When 4 lanes of cars started to come at me i realized my error. It was pretty terrifying.
A real bug eyed moment huh? Nothing bad happen?
Originally posted by Surtur
I suppose it is possible the driver did it on purpose, but then you would just think he wouldn't have swerved away from the larger crowd.For now it comes off like the actions of someone with little time to react trying to damage as few people as possible.
Was he a Trump supporter? Or a racist?
Do we know any of those details?
Okay cops have said he wasn't under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
Also they are now saying anyone who goes to the area again will be arrested. In other words they are saying they will once again be enforcing the law.
My question is did the protesters have a permit? If so, why did the city grant them a permit to protest in an area where it is illegal for even 1 pedestrian to be?
If not, why did the cops allow them to illegally be on the highway for so long? Unless your car has broken down and you've exited your vehicle it is illegal for pedestrians to be on a highway. That is true whether or not it is closed. And this wasn't the first protest in that area, people have apparently shown up there to protest everyday for the past 19 days. So did the city tell the cops to stand down and allow this?
In other news: another statue of notorious Confederate General Christopher Columbus has been eliminated.
Protesters tore down, threw a statue of Christopher Columbus into Baltimore's Inner Harbor
What really irks me is that it’s always painted that the Natives were peaceful, any tribe or any group like that. It’s...no that’s not the case, they were killing eachother back and forth before the Europeans and Spanish came along.
They only “owned†land when they did what? Oh yeah, they CONQUERED IT, just like literally every civilization to exist. No one owns land forever, you temporarily own it until you die or get conquered.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
What really irks me is that it’s always painted that the Natives were peaceful, any tribe or any group like that. It’s...no that’s not the case, they were killing eachother back and forth before the Europeans and Spanish came along.They only “owned†land when they did what? Oh yeah, they CONQUERED IT, just like literally every civilization to exist. No one owns land forever, you temporarily own it until you die or get conquered.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
A 2015 documentary, featuring Kitty's brother William, discovered that other crime reporters knew of many problems with the story even in 1964. Immediately after the story broke, WNBC police reporter Danny Meehan discovered many inconsistencies in the original article in The New York Times. Meehan asked New York Times reporter Martin Gansberg why his article failed to reveal that witnesses did not feel that a murder was happening. Gansberg replied, "It would have ruined the story." Not wishing to jeopardize his career by attacking powerful New York Times editor Abe Rosenthal, Meehan kept his findings secret and passed his notes to fellow WNBC reporter Gabe Pressman. Later, Pressman taught a journalism course in which some of his students called Rosenthal and confronted him with the evidence. Rosenthal was irate that his editorial decisions were being questioned by journalism students and angrily berated Pressman in a phone call.[67]On October 12, 2016, The New York Times appended an Editor's Note to the online version of its 1964 article, stating that "Later reporting by The Times and others has called into question significant elements of this account."[5]
He lied. On purpose.
So it wouldn't ruin the story.
This admission is BIG. Entirely fields of psychology were dedicated to this lie.
And they wonder why no one trusts the news. This is why.
