How would Lucifer/Michael do against Cthulhu Mythos top tiers?

this is not Lucifer and Michael together. Individually how would they do

Nyarlathotep

Azathoth

Yog-Sothoth

Win

Well, even together, they stand no chance against Azathoth, the Supreme Creator of the Mythos.

That said, Lucifer and Michael individually can certainly go toe-to-toe with the Outer Gods. Beat them? Not sure, especially regarding Yog-Sothoth.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well, even together, they stand no chance against Azathoth, the Supreme Creator of the Mythos.

That said, Lucifer and Michael individually can certainly go toe-to-toe with the Outer Gods. Beat them? Not sure, especially regarding Yog-Sothoth.

How would Azathoth beat either of them tho? Isnt he technically like the Overmonitor of the Outer Gods? Even if it wakes up Lucifer can exist outside of its multiverse/creation

Its intelligence is also very questionable. Arguably the most cunning/manipulative character in fiction oughta be able to do something there considering it can even be kept asleep with the flute

Its power seems like dream reality manip on a multiversal scale similar to Dreams post/power in Dreaming......in which he has no power over Lucifer

Lol...Azathoth literally predates the concepts of existence (The Nameless Mist/Yog Sothoth) and non-existence (The Great Darkness) themselves. He's waaaaay more than just some reality-warping entity. He's Supreme over the likes of Yog-Sothoth, the supreme archetype that embodies and extends beyond all of existence.

Originally posted by RangerDX
How would Azathoth beat either of them tho? Isnt he technically like the Overmonitor of the Outer Gods? Even if it wakes up Lucifer can exist outside of its multiverse/creation

Its intelligence is also very questionable. Arguably the most cunning/manipulative character in fiction oughta be able to do something there considering it can even be kept asleep with the flute

Its power seems like dream reality manip on a multiversal scale similar to Dreams post/power in Dreaming......in which he has no power over Lucifer

Technically they did, when they beat those trolls with Yewah's power.

They had plot device's, though. Some way of sealing the power/siphoning it through ritual..

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Lol...Azathoth literally predates the concepts of existence (The Nameless Mist/Yog Sothoth) and non-existence (The Great Darkness) themselves. He's waaaaay more than just some reality-warping entity. He's Supreme over the likes of Yog-Sothoth, the supreme archetype that embodies and extends beyond all of existence.

Yog Sothoth is locked outside of existance, though. Hardly omnipotent with such a limitation..

Wonder how Azathoth would fare against Gan..

Originally posted by cdtm
Technically they did, when they beat those trolls with Yewah's power.

They had plot device's, though. Some way of sealing the power/siphoning it through ritual..

Originally posted by cdtm
Yog Sothoth is locked outside of existance, though. Hardly omnipotent with such a limitation..

Wonder how Azathoth would fare against Gan..

Never said Yog-Sothoth was omnipotent. What I did say is that he embodies everything within and beyond existence, (which has been stated,) and that he's the Supreme Archetype, and the other archetypes that are insignificant fractions of Yog-Sothoth are beyond the infinite dimensional multiverse.

Gan essentially represents an infinite-dimensional structure. Azathoth is way beyond that.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Lol...Azathoth literally predates the concepts of existence (The Nameless Mist/Yog Sothoth) and non-existence (The Great Darkness) themselves. He's waaaaay more than just some reality-warping entity. He's Supreme over the likes of Yog-Sothoth, the supreme archetype that embodies and extends beyond all of existence.

This doesnt really say anything about how itd win

Originally posted by Mindset
Do you think Lucifer and Michael defeat an omnipotent God?

Nope. But Azathoth isnt omnipotent so thats irrelevant

Originally posted by RangerDX
Nope. But Azathoth isnt omnipotent so thats irrelevant

Originally posted by RangerDX
Nope. But Azathoth isnt omnipotent so thats irrelevant

Don't tell those nimrods at Vsbattles that. 😆

Originally posted by Mindset
But he is.

Nope. No proof from the original sauce material backing this up.

Originally posted by cdtm
Don't tell those nimrods at Vsbattles that. 😆

LOL that wiki is complete garbage. Their new tiering system is so offbase and its usually just a couple posters there that adjust the scalings. Unfortunately dimwits who havent read the source material take what those wankers say at face value and run with it

Originally posted by RangerDX
Nope. No proof from the original sauce material backing this up.

Originally posted by Mindset
Don't ever disagree with me in public again.

No can do if youre wrong again 😉

Originally posted by RangerDX
Nope. But Azathoth isnt omnipotent so thats irrelevant

what else would one call the being that is responsible for the very concepts of existence and nonexistence themselves?

Azathoth - Michael and Lucifer loses
Yog Sothoth -Michael and Lucifer loses
Nyarlathotep - Michael and Lucifer together wins