Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Why?
Your question of why has nothing to do with you wanting to be convinced, you already believe the old ones are superior.
I believe Michael and Lucifer are superior, there is little to no supporting literature to measure the old ones power in a relative way to that of Michael and Lucifer.
Thus this entire thread is nothing more than a "who do you like more" thread.
There is little to no supporting literature to measure the old ones power in a relative way to that of Michael and Lucifer. All that exists are vague if not Hyperbole statements about what they are or might be, they have little to no interaction with the tangible world and or are barred from doing so.
On the other hand both Michael and Lucifer have on panel demonstrations of Megaversal power (as in influencing all of DC).
@Prof. T.C McAbe 😂 Seriously?
I will just leave this here:
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
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[*]Its pretty clear that the Lovecraft Multiverse is a Hilbert Space Multiverse, with infinite universes and infinite higher dimensions. Yog Sothoth silmultaneously embodies and exists beyond this Multiverse and their archetypes, (the archetypes being "ultimate" forms of every being that exists, as Randolph Carter found out. Even these archetypes are only fractions of Yog Sothoth). Much less impressively, Yog Sothoth speaking was comparable to universes slamming into and annihilating each other.
[*]Azathoth is the Supreme Creator of all existence, including Yog Sothoth and the rest of the Outer Gods. We know this because Lovecraft himself wrote a chart on the causality of existence, and it shows Azathoth at the top, predating existence (presumably the Nameless Mist) and nonexistence (presumably Great Darkness) themselves. Azathoth is also frequently referred to as, "the Lord of All Things" as well. None of the other characters in this thread are Supreme Being tier.
[*]Nyarlathotep is the chaotic soul of Azathoth given form. It's probably the most powerful Outer God other than Yog-Sothoth, and Outer Gods in general have a depth of power beyond the multiverse itself. Shub Niggurath is similar, (and Shub was born of/became the Great Darkness).
[*]Im not seeing how the comics team has a chance. I understand they have much more exposure and what not, but God Emperor Doom only really possesses a piece of the Beyonder Power that Owen stripped away at his leisure, Living Tribunal essentially hasn't had a good feat since the days of the IG, and Thanos with the IG is the weakest person on his team. Molecule Man would be difficult to handle for just about any being in fiction, but Azathoth is an actual Supreme Being. The whole comics team doesn't really have much of a chance against Azathoth alone. But to put it this way:
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But I'd battlezone Hulk vs Azathoth with you 👆
Originally posted by Ursumeles
@Prof. T.C McAbe 😂 Seriously?
I will just leave this here:https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/wollfmyth209/blog/yog-sothoth-respect-thread/127612/
But I'd battlezone Hulk vs Azathoth with you 👆
As for BZ, I don't do them, not worth my time, especially not against socks.
LMAO, I've read most books of HPL - did you?
Anyway, it's not hyperbole, it's just stating facts. Or TOAA/Presence etc.being omnipotent is just hyperbole.
Also, only because HPL doesn't throws us OP-feats in our face, it isn't like the mythos has none. The mere servants of Nyar were able to survive Universes collapsing, and yet got oneshotted by Nodens lmao.
Oh no, he has a different opinion, he is a sock!
Originally posted by Ursumeles
LMAO, I've read most books of HPL - did you?
Anyway, it's not hyperbole, it's just stating facts. Or TOAA/Presence etc.being omnipotent is just hyperbole.
Also, only because HPL doesn't throws us OP-feats in our face, it isn't like the mythos has none. The mere servants of Nyar were able to survive Universes collapsing, and yet got oneshotted by Nodens lmao.Oh no, he has a different opinion, he is a sock!
No, he smells like a sock, writes like a sock and behaves like a sock, and that's why he is a sock.
Cthulhu was defeated because the stars weren't standing right. Anyway, he tanked a ship driving through his head, lmao. And Cthulhu is a extremely weak char.
Obviously HPL intended to target the insanity, but he also wanted to show how tiny and insignificant humans are.
Anyway, not adressing the feat of the Universes collapsing? K