Darth Malak vs. Ahsoka Tano (Rebels)

He's closer to Dooku than Ahsoka.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He's closer to Dooku than Ahsoka.

Based on canonical and authoritative statements, or even Ahsoka and Maul's fights in rebels, not a chance.

->Ahsoka sent maul flailing backwards on, and briefly drove maul back, and otherwise fought evenly with him on an implied ds nexus

->Ahsoka was beyond the ability of someone who can put up a barrier capable of withstanding ship dissolving explosions to directly tk(ahsoka was off balance when vader pushed her)

->Ahsoka fought evenly for more than a minute with Maul's superior before said superior finally gained a clear upperhand

->Ahsoka is authoritatively>Maul on even ground

Ahsoka's>Maul, fanon aside.

I'd love for you to try to actually debate me here rather than dodge said points, but I sense you realize that the position you're trying to argue from isn't an arguable one.

As it is, there's room for discussion on Ahsoka vs dooku, there isn't any on Ashoka vs maul

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Based on your fanon? perhaps

Based on canonical and authoritative statements, or even Ahsoka and Maul's fights in rebels, not a chance.

->Ahsoka sent maul flailing backwards on, and briefly drove maul back, and otherwise fought evenly with him on an implied ds nexus

->Ahsoka was beyond the ability of someone who can put up a barrier capable of withstanding ship dissolving explosions to directly tk(ahsoka was off balance when vader pushed her)

->Ahsoka fought evenly for more than a minute with Maul's superior before said superior finally gained a clear upperhand

->Ahsoka is authoritatively>Maul on even ground

Ahsoka's>Maul, fanon aside.

I'd love for you to try to actually debate me here rather than dodge said points, but I sense you realize that the position you're trying to argue from isn't an arguable one.

Well yeah, Ahsoka's close to or possibly better than Maul in Rebels.

I'd favor SoD Maul solidly over prime Ahsoka though, no question. 👆

You mean aside from rebels maul being canonically better?
Or should we take out of context voice actor opinons instead

Spoiler:
Starwars.com isn't Canon

I don't think anyone is "canonically better" than anyone else unless specifically demonstrated to be so, BTW.

Canon doesn't work like that.

Rebels recon is.

Unless you're still trying to peddle crap from the maul was the weakest quote

Rebels Recon isn't "Canon" - the content stated doesn't immediately become lore and put restrictions on future works, lmfao. If Pablo said it, then it's arguably Canon, but still probably not.

Feats?
Fine, Rebels Maul is in the general range of a force user(vader) who's feats fckin annihlate sod maul's

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Feats?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Rebels Recon isn't "Canon" - the content stated doesn't immediately become lore and put restrictions on future works, lmfao. If Pablo said it, then it's arguably Canon, but still probably not.

They're canon.

And besides, it's not like there's any offfical contradictions here

The Starwars.com team doesn't have any authority to make Canon statements that apply to and restrict the entire saga, lmfao.

Hell, I'd say even if a published book flat-out stated Ahsoka > Maul, it's still not absolute, based on how the story group is handling the continuity.

Starwars.com is reviewed by the lucas film story group.

And the only thing being restricted is your personal opinon

I'm under the impression Starwars.com is specifically not reviewed by the story group, according to Pablo on Twitter who says his team doesn't work on that.

I'll find the quote about it being canon. Till then, Feloni's uncontradicted authoritative explanation for what he oversaw trumps your fanon

Filoni's statements aren't Canon either, BTW.

EDIT: And I question the story group's vetting process and what such means, also. The story group thought it was fine for a book to put Maul as a better duelist than Dooku and Vader as a better duelist than Sidious. It seems they don't really care about that sort of stuff / leave it to the author and/or fans to decide.

Filoni never even said Rebels Maul is at his combat peak.

Also I'd take Sam Witwer's opinions over Filoni's any day.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

Spoiler:
Starwars.com isn't Canon

I don't think anyone is "canonically better" than anyone else unless specifically demonstrated to be so, BTW.

Canon doesn't work like that.

Exactly.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Filoni's statements aren't Canon either, BTW.

EDIT: And I question the story group's vetting process and what such means, also. The story group thought it was fine for a book to put Maul as a better duelist than Dooku. It seems they don't really care about that sort of stuff / leave it to the author and/or fans to decide.

2. Wasn't that debunked by elimnist in the how powerful is ahsoka thread?

1. I'm pretty sure I've seen Filoni's statements on the matter and disagreed with your interpretation over it, so it's not remotely definitive enough to mean anything especially considering it's not Canon.

2. Nope. I literally emailed the author of the book and they confirmed it was for lightsaber dueling. It shows that the story group doesn't care for that.

Rebels Maul>Ahsoka. Denying canonical statements is pathetic.