Faora vs. Kurse

Started by NemeBro11 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
You don't get to pick and choose. either it counts for both or them, or it doesn't count for either.
The claim is that Lois surviving the singularity is PIS. That doesn't mean everything else about the singularity is thrown out when the sole inconsistency is Lois surviving it. 👇

Originally posted by FrothByte
Superman was only ever shot with an alien weapon and it clearly hurt him.
What are you referring to here? I don't recall.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What are you referring to here? I don't recall.

He was shot by Zod's ship if I'm not mistaken. And that clearly hurt him. We have not seen any of the kryptonians hurt by man-made weapons (unless you count Batman's kryptonite gun) but then no Asgardian has really been hurt by a man-made weapon either that I recall.

So Kurse getting run through with that Elven blade and still continue fighting is a higher durability feat than any Faora has shown.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The fact that he didn't die after getting a sword run through him is tanking it. The fact that it didn't really seem to bother him is tanking it. Tanking something is not equivalent to being invulnerable.

There's also the fact that Faora has never been hit with a weapon meant to take down a superhuman opponent, which this elven blade was. Superman was only ever shot with an alien weapon and it clearly hurt him.

Look if you wanna argue that Kurse has good damage soak, fine. But his durability is crap. I mean do you honestly think he is in any way comparable to beings who can survive nukes?

Faora has been hit by Superman's fist, which I think we can all agree, is far more destructive than a sword wielded by Loki.

Superman was unharmed by Zod's ship blast, just knocked back. He wasn't KOed or anything.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Look if you wanna argue that Kurse has good damage soak, fine. But his durability is crap. I mean do you honestly think he is in any way comparable to beings who can survive nukes?

Faora has been hit by Superman's fist, which I think we can all agree, is far more destructive than a sword wielded by Loki.

Superman was unharmed by Zod's ship blast, just knocked back. He wasn't KOed or anything.

That's like saying getting punched by a heavyweight MMA fighter in the face is more destructive than getting stabbed with a knife in the face by a 15 yr old kid. Which would you rather get hit with?

Superman only survived the nuke via recharge from the sun. Without that recharge he'd be a gonner. Thor at least withstood the biforst explosion without harm and without any "healing" period. Now, Loki is not Thor, but then Faora is also not Superman.

If it counts as a durability feat, it counts for everyone involved, you don't get to selectively apply PIS.

Originally posted by Sable
Has nothing to do with Faora, it's the simple fact people were saying he has great durability when he doesn't have good durability showings lie Faora. I just thought it was funny people were arguing his great durability and especially against metal, when it's the exact opposite.

There was no indication in the movie that he even had a weakness to Iron or any metal so why bring that up? This isn't the comics. As for durability showings, I guess there wasn't any because there wasn't any Asgardians that could actually harm him. The guy didn't get hurt even once. He got stabbed twice though. One sword he casually knocked out of him and the other time he actually used the sword impaled within him as a weapon. I don't know what you want to call that, but its pretty damn impressive.

Originally posted by Psychotron

Faora has been hit by Superman's fist, which I think we can all agree, is far more destructive than a sword wielded by Loki.

No

Originally posted by FrothByte
The fact that he didn't die after getting a sword run through him is tanking it. The fact that it didn't really seem to bother him is tanking it. Tanking something is not equivalent to being invulnerable.

There's also the fact that Faora has never been hit with a weapon meant to take down a superhuman opponent, which this elven blade was. Superman was only ever shot with an alien weapon and it clearly hurt him.

No it's not. Anyone crazy can get a sword run through them and not care. This is if it doesn't hit any vital organs. Getting a sword run through you has no bearing on how difficult it is to ko you. They are two different things.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If it counts as a durability feat, it counts for everyone involved, you don't get to selectively apply PIS.
In that case, all of Hulk's durability feats don't count because his pants survived it well.

Originally posted by tkitna
There was no indication in the movie that he even had a weakness to Iron or any metal so why bring that up? This isn't the comics. As for durability showings, I guess there wasn't any because there wasn't any Asgardians that could actually harm him. The guy didn't get hurt even once. He got stabbed twice though. One sword he casually knocked out of him and the other time he actually used the sword impaled within him as a weapon. I don't know what you want to call that, but its pretty damn impressive.
That's not impressive at all. It has no bearing on this fight whatsoever.

Originally posted by tkitna
There was no indication in the movie that he even had a weakness to Iron or any metal so why bring that up? This isn't the comics. As for durability showings, I guess there wasn't any because there wasn't any Asgardians that could actually harm him. The guy didn't get hurt even once. He got stabbed twice though. One sword he casually knocked out of him and the other time he actually used the sword impaled within him as a weapon. I don't know what you want to call that, but its pretty damn impressive.

He has no strength or durability showings that hold water on Faora. He was mainly output.

Originally posted by FrothByte
He was shot by Zod's ship if I'm not mistaken. And that clearly hurt him. We have not seen any of the kryptonians hurt by man-made weapons (unless you count Batman's kryptonite gun) but then no Asgardian has really been hurt by a man-made weapon either that I recall.

So Kurse getting run through with that Elven blade and still continue fighting is a higher durability feat than any Faora has shown.

You don't know how durable the blade was. The writer didn't offer anything special about it. Thus it is assumed to be a normal blade. At best, equal to the hardest alloys humans can produce.

Originally posted by h1a8
No it's not. Anyone crazy can get a sword run through them and not care. This is if it doesn't hit any vital organs. Getting a sword run through you has no bearing on how difficult it is to ko you. They are two different things.

I'd like you to show me proof of a human with a 3 inch wide blade run through his/her sternum with that person walking around like nothing happened.

Originally posted by h1a8
In that case, all of Hulk's durability feats don't count because his pants survived it well.

He wont have anything to refute that. Hulks pants are now as tough as he is.

Originally posted by h1a8
You don't know how durable the blade was. The writer didn't offer anything special about it. Thus it is assumed to be a normal blade. At best, equal to the hardest alloys humans can produce.

I know the elven weapons were durable enough to kill Asgardians. We know that human weapons have so far been ineffective on Asgardians. Thus that sword is way stronger than any human equivalent we've seen so far.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I'd like you to show me proof of a human with a 3 inch wide blade run through his/her sternum with that person walking around like nothing happened.

😂 Yeah seriously. Show me that and i'll concede.

Originally posted by h1a8
In that case, all of Hulk's durability feats don't count because his pants survived it well.

I challenge you to a BZ, Lois vs Hulk in regards to durability. do you accept?

Originally posted by FrothByte
I'd like you to show me proof of a human with a 3 inch wide blade run through his/her sternum with that person walking around like nothing happened.
Its happened at least once. The pole or whatever missed every single vital organ miraculously and inpaled a human. He didn't know he was impaled until someone told him a little while after it happened. This happened years ago.

Kurse is not even human. His sternum could be non vital. His anatomy totally different. It has no bearing on how difficult it is to knock him out.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I challenge you to a BZ, Lois vs Hulk in regards to durability. do you accept?

Don't try and get out of it, from your statement, you would also think Hulks pants are as tough as he is.