Originally posted by Sin I AM
It contradicts whats shown on panelFfs
Raaah it doesn't...
It contradicts your point of view towards the character, not what's happening on panel.
I know that for most people the pill is hard to swallow but that's how crazily powerful the Sentry is...
It's not like we are interpreting anything.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
That's one of the shittiest argument that I've ever read on a battle board.That's a pathetic attempt at deflecting the discussion on another writer / topic at best...
Cool 👆
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Holy shit 😆Now a writer explaining his own work doesn't count ?
Hilarious.
Why don't MY interviews count?
Also, weren't I on ignore? And didn't you report me? How did that go?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool 👆
I'm not saying that to be aggressive or trigger you but you are clearly making an attempt at ignoring the topic at hand.
Why don't MY interviews count?
Because you didn't write the story we are speaking about which makes your opinion just an opinion.
Also, weren't I on ignore?
You was but I think that it is more constructive to confront you to the flaws in your logic. Are we good ?
Originally posted by RealityWarper
I'm not saying that to be aggressive or trigger you but you are clearly making an attempt at ignoring the topic at hand.
Topic being, do we go by what's on panel or writer interviews.
Writer interviews count? OK. Constantine is real.
Because you didn't write the story we are speaking about which makes your opinion just an opinion.
You was but I think that it is more constructive to confront you to the flaws in your logic. Are we good ?
You and Stilt are using writer interviews as proof. Stilt likes to quote Pr as well.
Well, if he likes it so much, then he can't be biased, right? Writer interviews, that don't contradict the comic, count.
My interviews don't contradict what's on panel. Constantine exists, both in fiction and in the writer's interviews.
So he is real.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Topic being, do we go by what's on panel or writer interviews.
Both. There is no contradiction between both, so both.
Writer interviews count? OK. Constantine is real.
Constantine is real and everything is true on the internet. 👆
Seriously, a writer making an obvious interview with meta-fiction for the fun doesn't discount the interview of other writers about their own work.
Do you see the flaw in your logic or will you continue to talk to us like if we are stupid ?
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Both. There is no contradiction between both, so both.Constantine is real and everything is true on the internet. 👆
Seriously, a writer making an obvious interview with meta-fiction for the fun doesn't discount the interview of other writers about their own work.
OK. So whatever we don't agree with, we discount and say they are just saying it for the lulz.
Bendis was just saying that for the lulz. This is a great way to debate!
Do you see the flaw in your logic or will you continue to talk to us like if we are stupid ?
IF?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I didn't write any Hellblazer comics either. Milligan, Azzarello, Moore and Delano did, though. And they all say that Con John is real.
It's obvious that's a meta-fictive interview.
The initiative of a few writers at promoting a character in a fun way doesn't negate the content of the interviews of other writers.
That's completely flawed.
You have yet to, but ok, whatever helps you sleep at night 👆
Having a person X wrong at something doesn't make a person Y wrong at something just because they have the same job.
In French I would qualify your arguments as "N'importe nawak".
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
OK. So whatever we don't agree with, we discount and say they are just saying it for the lulz.Bendis was just saying that for the lulz. This is a great way to debate!
IF? [/B]
I've pretty much summarized the fallacious arguments you used in that thread.
Another obvious thing is that you are intentionally trolling in that thread because of the same lack of arguments.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
It's obvious that's a meta-fictive interview.The initiative of a few writers at promoting a character in a fun way doesn't negate the content of the interviews of other writers.
That's completely flawed.
Having a person X wrong at something doesn't make a person Y wrong at something just because they have the same job.
In French I would qualify your arguments as "N'importe nawak".
A person? I had not one, not two, not even three...FOUR people all claiming the same thing.
So prove that they are wrong. Prove they never met Constantine.
I'm not trolling.
I am saying that you cannot have one set of rules one day, and another set for another character.
If writer interviews are allowed, fine. If not allowed, also fine. Just be consistent.
If one wants to argue 'obscurity' like Stilt, that's fallacious.
If you want to argue 'common sense', then that's still fallacious.
We go by what's shown in comics. If you cannot prove it with pure comics alone, then it's hardly 'fact'.
I have an idea. Let's ignore everything.
On-panel statements are often incorrect. Even those from the impartial narrator. Let's ignore those.
Same with the art. It's not meant to be taken literally and there are so many errors within it...
In the end, there is nothing. We just found the Anti-Life Equation.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I have an idea. Let's ignore everything.On-panel statements are often incorrect. Even those from the impartial narrator. Let's ignore those.
Same with the art. It's not meant to be taken literally and there are so many errors within it...
In the end, there is nothing. We just found the Anti-Life Equation.
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Except, we don't have forum rules about oh wait, we do, we have the PIS rule.
We DO have rules about writer interviews. Care to quote them again, Stilty?
I'll just quote Azzarello again. Or maybe Delano. Wait wait wait, you said 'obscure'.
Guess it's back to Alan Moore and Wizard again.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A person? I had not one, not two, not even three...FOUR people all claiming the same thing.So prove that they are wrong. Prove they never met Constantine.
I don't have to prove that some comic book writers met a fictional character.
I'm not trolling.
😆
Noooooooooooo.
Not at all.
I apologize for my suspicious nature. 💃
I am saying that you cannot have one set of rules one day, and another set for another character.
And ? When did I show any bias or double standards exactly ?
I use the same set of rules for every characters and a bit of critical thinking should make obvious when an Interview is an Hoax or not.
Sentry was supposedly drew by Artie Rosen and it was revealed later that it was an hoax.
There it is obvious that they didn't really met Constantine.
On the other hand, Bendis interviews are here to give serious answer on the topic. They are equals to what is happening on panel because the writer of the story is explaining what he did.
Damn, we shouldn't even have to go there in a battle forum. Discussing this is just silly.
If writer interviews are allowed, fine. If not allowed, also fine. Just be consistent.
Fine. Use real life Constantine in the battle forum if that makes you feel better. 👆
If one wants to argue 'obscurity' like Stilt, that's fallacious.If you want to argue 'common sense', then that's still fallacious.
English, please.
We go by what's shown in comics. If you cannot prove it with pure comics alone, then it's hardly 'fact'.
If the writer explain what he did and that you didn't read it this way it is obvious that you are the one having reading comics, not the writer.
What's happening on panel is clear for Stilt and me and you misinterpreting the source material doesn't make the writer wrong. 👆
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're really begging to get your anal cavity buzzsaw'd by Pr's razor-sharp, shark-like teeth...
Yeah? Based on what? Am I not using writer interviews from well-known magazines?
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Fine. Use real life Constantine in the battle forum if that makes you feel better. 👆
HAHAHAH THIS FANBOY, THINKING MADE UP COMIC CHARACTERS ARE REAL LOL.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
How...?
Because there is no scene during Seige that explicitly/implicity states or alludes to Bob lowering his durability to allow Thor to beat him. Especially given Thors ability to affect trans tier characters when pushed.
If there is a tie-in, cutscene, off panel convo, on panel dialogue, in story narration that says thus i will GLADLY concede.
So screw the fanfic shenanigans if a writer wanted to show something he should have shown it. Period.