Even in Canon, TCW Kenobi has contended with Darth Maul who canon-wise has stomped three MagnaGuards and wrecked a version of Savage capable of dueling evenly with Ventress. He also managed to land physical hits on ROTS Anakin.
He also managed to kill one MagnaGuard while dueling General Grievous. And per-prime TCW Kenobi managed to beat Ventress in the CW movie. Even in Canon, ROTS Kenobi has impressive showings.
Originally posted by MythLord
Yeah, and that's saber skill. I'll need actual feats of TK and speed that are in any way, shape or form a match for Malgus.
Before AOTC, Kenobi, in conjunction with Anakin, held a gigantic aircraft. Yeah, it was with Anakin but Anakin was a teenager and Kenobi was vastly pre-prime. ROTS Kenobi could at least come close to replicating the feat.
Pre-prime S1 Kenobi also stalemated Ventress in a TK contest, Ventress as of S1 capable of flooring Anakin with a Force Push. Kenobi also pushed S3 Ventress who managed to push Anakin and defend against a push from Anakin. He also stalemated Hindered Anakin in a TK contest- yeah, Anakin wasn't at his best but he's still very powerful. ROTS Kenobi's skill is better than Malgus' own even in Canon, and he has comparable TK given his TK stalemate with Hindered Anakin. Hindered Anakin's vastly inferior TCW versions have:
Snapped lots of heavy binders
Ragdolled Asajj Ventress
Which is quite impressive.
Speed-wise, Kenobi has moved in blurs (massively pre-prime) and performing a manuever that shows he can react at a respectable fraction of lightspeed. He did it in the novel but performed similar manuevers in the movie.
Even in canon, ROTS Kenobi is Malgus+ level. Ben>ROTS Kenobi.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Before AOTC, Kenobi, in conjunction with Anakin, held a gigantic aircraft. Yeah, it was with Anakin but Anakin was a teenager and Kenobi was vastly pre-prime. ROTS Kenobi could at least come close to replicating the feat.
A feat Malgus would replicate easily.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Pre-prime S1 Kenobi also stalemated Ventress in a TK contest, Ventress as of S1 capable of flooring Anakin with a Force Push.
Kenobi also pushed S3 Ventress who managed to push Anakin and defend against a push from Anakin.
Anakin at the time did nothing impressive.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
He also stalemated Hindered Anakin in a TK contest- yeah, Anakin wasn't at his best but he's still very powerful. ROTS Kenobi's skill is better than Malgus' own even in Canon, and he has comparable TK given his TK stalemate with Hindered Anakin. Hindered Anakin's vastly inferior TCW versions have:
Snapped lots of heavy binders
Ragdolled Asajj Ventress
Which is quite impressive.
What makes you say a hindered RotS Anakin is vastly superior to TCW Season 5 Anakin? I mean, he's already approaching levels where he's close to Dooku as of this time frame and then grows incredibly in the span of a few months. I'd say Mustafar Annie is rivalled by late-TCW Annie.
So yeah, none of this really places Obi-Wan on par with Malgus, who's more powerful than beings that destroy Hexx-Droids(that tank insane amounts of blaster fire), can blast away several tons of rubble, debris and stone despite being near death, overloading fuel cells of several ships by screaming, lurching a ship carrying him with a telekinetic wave and all before a significant power-growth.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Speed-wise, Kenobi has moved in blurs (massively pre-prime)
Everyone and their mothers can do that in Star Wars.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
and performing a manuever that shows he can react at a respectable fraction of lightspeed. He did it in the novel but performed similar manuevers in the movie.
The RotS novel is confirmed as not being part of Disney canon, so Obi has no lightspeed feats. And yeah he performed a manuever in the movie, but we have no idea how fast that manuever was since the novel doesn't apply to it in this continuity. Meanwhile, Malgus is outpacing someone who can move in miliseconds and seeing blaster bolts "with perfect clarity", i.e. relatively slowed down, indicating reflexes considerably above hypersonic.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Even in canon, ROTS Kenobi is Malgus+ level. Ben>ROTS Kenobi.
If this was Legends, you'd have a point, but lo it is not.
Originally posted by MythLord
Yeah, and that's saber skill. I'll need actual feats of TK and speed that are in any way, shape or form a match for Malgus.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Vader's lords of the sith speed feats should do, and wolf Kenobi is a direct peer of Vader who's tk's also better. Unless you're actually going try and argue Vader decided not to use his force abilities even though he regularly abuses them in canon
Vader's speed feats in Lords of the Sith also aren't up to stack with the stuff Malgus has up his sleeve, and neither is his TK.
And Kenobi isn't his peer in the Force, no. You have to account the source where they fight, in which case Vader did not use his telekinesis in that fight despite his regular abusal of it in newer material, unless you'd like to argue ESB Luke and Korbin(lol) are Vader's peers. 😬