Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You're mixing up Legends with Canon.Rage amp doesn't exist, and nothing says Sidious was toying at the end.
And Sidious didn't demolish Maul by any stretch of imagination either.
You're still mixing up Legends with Canon.
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Completely unsupported. All 9s are equal and only battlefield conditions and circumstance put them apart, as per NG.
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Sidious throwing the fight but losing legitimately are not mutually exclusive. [/B]
Starwars.com outright states Sidious toyed with Maul. Check Silver's blog, he has the picture. Maul was also rage amped due to his brother dying. He's a darksider, so if someone he likes dies, he becomes enraged.
And Sidious demolished Maul, yeah. He overpowered him in twenty seconds.
Oops. Sorry for mixing the verses. But even in Canon, Dooku was stated "no match for Yoda" and is depicted tiring quickly, getting a second blade then getting instantly disarmed.
9s are all equal duelists, yeah, but that does not mean they are all equal as combatants. Sidious and Yoda's speed feats are much better than Anakin's, anda Sidious has moved faster than Anakin could perceive- it's just too many sources, including the novel itself, disagreeing with the earlier statement from the novel Anakin is faster than Yoda (who outright matched Sidious in speed). Anakin is equal to Yoda and Sidious in skill, but as an overall saber combatant with Augmentation, he's still well below them.
Sidious didn't lose legitimately given how he could have killed Mace seconds into the fight.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Starwars.com outright states Sidious toyed with Maul. Check Silver's blog, he has the picture.
The quote on Starwars.com is ambiguous since it could be referring to Sidious toying with Maul by throwing him around, electrocuting him, then laughing, telling him he doesn't plan to kill him, and then electrocuting him some more, which it probably is.
Maul was also rage amped due to his brother dying. He's a darksider, so if someone he likes dies, he becomes enraged.
Sith always use their dark emotions in battle. There's no Legends ability that states a temporary amp like you're suggesting.
And Sidious demolished Maul, yeah. He overpowered him in twenty seconds.
Which blatantly isn't a stomp. That's the same duration of Yoda vs Dooku, which Canon sources have labeled as going either way.
But even in Canon, Dooku was stated "no match for Yoda" and is depicted tiring quickly, getting a second blade then getting instantly disarmed.
That's Legends.
9s are all equal duelists, yeah, but that does not mean they are all equal as combatants.
There's no clarification on if the scale is dueling or combat, but it more-than-likely is combat in general.
Sidious and Yoda's speed feats are much better than Anakin's, anda Sidious has moved faster than Anakin could perceive- it's just too many sources, including the novel itself, disagreeing with the earlier statement from the novel Anakin is faster than Yoda (who outright matched Sidious in speed). Anakin is equal to Yoda and Sidious in skill, but as an overall saber combatant with Augmentation, he's still well below them.
The novel isn't Canon.
Sidious didn't lose legitimately given how he could have killed Mace seconds into the fight.
No, he couldn't have killed Mace "seconds into the fight." That being said, again, Sidious prolonging the fight and Sidious losing the fight are not mutually exclusive.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Starwars.com outright states Sidious toyed with Maul. Check Silver's blog, he has the picture.
Silver's always had an agenda of proving Sidious can blitz anyone whose not Yoda any time. In Legends there might be a case there, but doesn't really hold up in Canon.
That said, of course Sidious blitzing Maul is possible given Old Ben blitzed him. But that's different to just blitzing him any second he feels like, and definitely different to blitzing a top tier 8 like Windu.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The quote on Starwars.com is ambiguous since it could be referring to Sidious toying with Maul by throwing him around, electrocuting him, then laughing, telling him he doesn't plan to kill him, and then electrocuting him some more, which it probably is.
Yeah That's what I always thought given the timing context of the quote "Sidious killed Savage then toyed with Maul.."
Originally posted by The Merchant
This is what I asked, Ant."Hello Mr. Gillard, I'm a huge fan regarding your work in the Prequel trilogy, especially how both you and Mr. Lucas created the nine levels of Lightsaber dueling, such as Yoda and the Emperor being level nines. I was wondering how that translates into the Original trilogy, episodes 4 through 6. Where would the likes of Darth Vader, episode 4 Obi-wan, The Emperor from Episode 6, Yoda from Episode 5, and Luke from_episode 5 and later 6_scale in your Lightsaber levels? And is Qui-Gon Jinn a level 7 Lightsaber duelist? If you can answer these questions it would be much appreciated."
You do realise that anything he says about OT levels would just be his opinion right?