Originally posted by Bashar Teg
^^same guy pretending that antifa burned down buildings in order to take shade off of murdering nazis. but f*ck human life. that poor window was the real victim in all this, along with gimped trumper fee-fees.
I think KMC should have a moment of silence for all the window lives lost.
Black helmet, means he's Antifa.
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol...irony:
Antifa building torched in Thessaloniki, Greece
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
how is it ironic that an anti-fascist organization would face attacks from fascists? don't know what irony means perhaps?
Originally posted by Surtur
That they burn down shit cuz they are whiny babies and then their own place gets burned down because of their past whiny baby actions.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
oh? what did they burn down?
Originally posted by Surtur
Okay not burn down, but that they destroy shit and their shit gets destroyed.Though they have set cars on fire and stuff.
we went from burning down buildings, to burning cars, to breaking one window. and that's assuming that every rioter in a hoodie is a member of antifa. one window vs how many lives?
i ask again, what is ironic about that? got more memes to cope with your latest spectacle of pig-headed ignorance?
Originally posted by ArtificialGloryi don't know, tbh. depends on how far he took it. there's probably a fine line between assault with a weapon and attempted murder and i wouldn't know where it's drawn. burning a building down with people in it is more cut and dry. far less need to hash out whether or not they intended to kill people.
Can the Antifa goon smashing a guy over the head with a bikelock be considered attempted murder?
but it's a funny hair to split since there is a clear pattern of actual murders committed by fascists in america, yet we're worried about this window and that bike lock.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i don't know, tbh. depends on how far he took it. there's probably a fine line between assault with a weapon and attempted murder and i wouldn't know where it's drawn. burning a building down with people in it is more cut and dry. far less need to hash out whether or not they intended to kill people.but it's a funny hair to split since there is a clear pattern of actual murders committed by fascists in america, yet we're worried about this window and that bike lock.
There's a reason why they're classified as a terrorist group.
i never made the claim that people were in the building, just that it would easily be attempted murder to knowingly set fire to a building with people inside. nor did i make the claim that bike lock guy was/was not attempting murder.
and no, not accepting "they're on a terrorist list" as proof that they're terrorists. let's have details, not naked circular arguments.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i never made the claim that people were in the building, just that it would easily be attempted murder to knowingly set fire to a building with people inside. nor did i make the claim that bike lock guy was/was not attempting murder.and no, not accepting "they're on a terrorist list" as proof that they're terrorists. let's have details, not naked circular arguments.
i take it that this is the meat and potatoes:
“These antifa guys were showing up with weapons, shields and bike helmets and just beating the shit out of people ... they’re using Molotov cocktails, they’re starting fires, they’re throwing bombs and smashing windows.”
f*cked up, but how is that terrorism? don't people have to be killed or at least permanently maimed when a successful terrorist attack is committed? if not, that really bothers me.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i take it that this is the meat and potatoes:f*cked up, but how is that terrorism? don't people have to be killed or at least permanently maimed when a successful terrorist attack is committed? if not, that really bothers me.
To be perfectly honest, I agree that declaring them terrorists is a bit much and kind of disturbing in its implications. They're not nice people, dangerous, yes, and should definitely be on some sort of a watchlist, but terrorists...
really i can't see them as anything more than rioters, and vanilla rioters at that. maybe that's just my own pov, since i'm old enough to remember the LA riots. even as f*cked as that was (they burned down a f*ckton of buildings), i still wouldn't call it terrorism. i wouldn't call it organized, either. i say that because i've never seen more than like 15-20 of them at a protest.
another thing that bothers me is the repeated implication that 'antifa' encompasses all anti-fascist counter-protesters. not your assumption, but i'm sure you've seen the shifting-definition strategy used. several slimey f*ckwits here tried it, and tried it hard.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
The irony is that they're down with political violence and now the tables are turned on them in this instance.
It's hilarious these people don't get that lol. The people who routinely whine like little b*tches, attack people, smash shit, set stuff on fire...had their own shit burnt down.
I'm not even sure why adults need this explained to them lol. We've had Antifa in Europe setting cars on fire, etc. too. There is video of it on youtube of them doing it during a riot in Hamburg.
Just for fun:
Some Antifa victims. The guy in the red shirt is the guy who got hit with the bike lock that someone else mentioned. Is it attempted murder? Dunno, but it was intent to do serious physical harm. Likewise just whipping a glass bottle at someones head can do serious harm as well, and I urge anyone here who doubts that to allow someone to chuck a glass bottle at their head and then get back to me. Despite comments from Rob in the past suggesting the worst they do is toss smoke bombs.
Originally posted by Robtard
Like I've said before, throwing a smoke bomb at a crowd is illegal and running a crowd over with a car and murdering people is illegal, virtually, there is no difference.
While mentioning Antifa and smoke bombs does conjure up the hilarious image of them at Berkeley throwing a smoke bomb and the wind blowing it right back in their faces with them then fleeing...smoke bombs are not the worst of what these cowards do.